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Why I think that #NodeBB's latest release can be a game changer for the #Fediverse

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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos it was a matter of time to be done. We had reddit-like services, even a federated git service. A federated forum service wouldn't be that impossible.
    @julian
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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

  • @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

    @kichae I agree with that, and I have no knowledge of whether LemmyBB works nowadays.

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

  • @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

    @eeeee I believe LemmyBB was a proof-of-concept, to show that Lemmy as it existed back then was able to be represented in the front-end as a tradtional forum.

    But also, nutomic (who may have made LemmyBB? not sure.) is a busy person who has a day job and doesn't work on lemmy full-time 🙂

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    @reiver@mastodon.social tentatively doable, will have to plan a climbing trip out to Squamish if I'm already out west!
  • Really loving #NodeBB so far.

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    @deadsuperhero@social.wedistribute.org glad to hear it! I'm planning to continue working on improving our ActivityPub integration in 2025, hopefully with NLNet funding again
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    @reiver@mastodon.social reach out to @nlnet@social.nlnet.nl, they had lanyards at FOSDEM, maybe they'll send some over as FediCon swag
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    Durch meinen Umzug zu einem neuen Proxmox, habe ich die Gelegenheit genutzt und meine Server alle auf Debian 11 Bullseye neu installiert. So konnte ich das alles noch mal testen und meine Doku anpassen. Zu dem obigen Beitrag gibt es nur folgendes zu ergänzen. Ja, wir wollen ja auch was Aktuelles haben NodeJS https://nodejs.org/en/ curl -fsSL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_14.x | bash - NodeBB git clone -b v1.18.x https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB.git nodebb https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB/branches
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