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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos it was a matter of time to be done. We had reddit-like services, even a federated git service. A federated forum service wouldn't be that impossible.
    @julian
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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

  • @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

    @kichae I agree with that, and I have no knowledge of whether LemmyBB works nowadays.

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

  • @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

    @eeeee I believe LemmyBB was a proof-of-concept, to show that Lemmy as it existed back then was able to be represented in the front-end as a tradtional forum.

    But also, nutomic (who may have made LemmyBB? not sure.) is a busy person who has a day job and doesn't work on lemmy full-time 🙂

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    @thisismissem@hachyderm.io ah understood. I didn't quite get how the fund worked, but it makes more sense now (and is much simpler—organizationally—for Nivenly!) I don't think we'll add exclusions for security fund recipients I would say, though, that one of the requirements has to be that the affected software accepts the vulnerability. Plenty of self-proclaimed "security researchers" have filed reports, and some go as far as to publish CVEs (against our own software!) without our permission. Quite the opposite of responsible disclosure.
  • Blogtastisch: 2. Blogs und das Fediverse

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    @pfefferle Wow, danke für das super Video! Für mich ist das Fediverse noch ganz neu, hab jetzt mein Blog föderiert und mir einen Account bei Mastodon erstellt. Fühle mich noch etwas verloren, aber bin überzeugt auf dem richtigen Weg zu sein
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    @willi@social.tchncs.de a VPS can be had from DigitalOcean or Vultr quite economically (although I know that isn't always the case in some countries) You can also use our referral link for an account credit too!
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    In der Anleitung von iframely werden zwei Tools angesprochen, um den Dienst dauerhaft am Laufen zu halten. forever pm2 Ich habe beide ausprobiert, pm2 recht intensiv. Bin aber zu der Überzeugung gekommen, das es für mich nicht sinnvoll ist eines dieser Tools zu nutzen. Meine NodeJS Fähigkeiten sind sehr überschaubar, so das ich mich mit keinem der Tools richtig wohl gefühlt habe. Also machen wir es so, wie es in Debian 11 eingebaut ist - mit systemd Hier das File wie ich den Dienst starte. [Unit] Description=Iframely Documentation=https://iframely.com/docs/host After=system.slice multi-user.target [Service] Type=simple User=<USER> StandardOutput=syslog StandardError=syslog SyslogIdentifier=iframely WorkingDirectory=/home/<USER>/iframely PIDFile=/home/<USER>/iframely/pidfile ExecStart=/usr/bin/node cluster Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target
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    Heute gab es ein Update von 2.4.5 -> 2.5.0 Das oben geschriebene funktioniert nicht git fetch git reset --hard origin/v2.x ./nodebb upgrade Ausschnitt der Konsole ~/nodebb$ git fetch remote: Enumerating objects: 244, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (239/239), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100% (100/100), done. remote: Total 244 (delta 160), reused 212 (delta 138), pack-reused 5 Receiving objects: 100% (244/244), 55.57 KiB | 7.94 MiB/s, done. Resolving deltas: 100% (160/160), completed with 62 local objects. From https://github.com/NodeBB/NodeBB dd3e1a2861..01d276cbee v2.x -> origin/v2.x * [new branch] async-zxcvbn -> origin/async-zxcvbn 9260b4ef19..d06938d877 bootstrap5 -> origin/bootstrap5 884d40756a..8fe41d92a2 develop -> origin/develop a088eb19af..1076285dc9 master -> origin/master + b7d916c321...c85ac68373 renovate/ace-builds-1.x -> origin/renovate/ace-builds-1.x (forced update) * [new tag] v2.5.0 -> v2.5.0 :~/nodebb$ git reset --hard origin/v2.x HEAD is now at 01d276cbee chore: incrementing version number - v2.5.0 :~/nodebb$ ./nodebb upgrade Updating NodeBB...
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