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Why I think that #NodeBB's latest release can be a game changer for the #Fediverse

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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos it was a matter of time to be done. We had reddit-like services, even a federated git service. A federated forum service wouldn't be that impossible.
    @julian
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  • Why I think that 's latest release can be a game changer for the

    For years, before social media came along, forums were the main place to discuss with others on the internet. Communities were built, thrived, a few survived, most were swallowed by Reddit and Facebook groups.

    But there are still many websites/organizations/collectives who need an online space to talk with their members! Newspapers, workers unions, anarchist collectives, football fan clubs - all of those might already be running a forum, or would be open to running one. And now we have a great fedi solution for this, which is primarily a forum, but is also a gateway to the rest of fedi! Especially with the recent crap going on on mainstream social media (Zuckerberg's rightwing turn and Musk openly going full on nazi), I believe there is now an opportunity to suggest this to whatever kind of community you are involved in: "With this platform, we can have a forum for us, but also escape corporate social media!". It is a great idea.

    I am a little jealous, to be honest, as this was what I've been saying for years now, what I suggested back in
    , and what we wanted to do with - but I'm not a dev and the projects I've been involved in haven't managed to do much in this direction. @julian got there first - well done!

    Check out NodeBB, it's very nicely done, and I'm sure it will only get better, since they just released their first version with ActivityPub support. Think of any group/team you're in touch with that might consider hosting a (federated) forum, and suggest it to them! IMO federated communities are far more suitable and make much more sense for the Fediverse, instead of trying to conceptualize it as a kind of Twitter replacement, and they can serve the target of decentralization much better. Let's spread this!

    @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

  • @rynach@mstdn.io Lemmy isn't a forum, though. There's much more to being a forum than just having topics. Basic moderation tools (like post splitting, merging) etc. are lacking, and more advanced features that have been longtime standards on forums are totally absent.

    The UX is that of Reddit, and Reddit is as much a forum as Twitter is a blog.

    And LemmyBB hasn't been updated in iver 2 years. Does it even work with the current back end?

    @kichae I agree with that, and I have no knowledge of whether LemmyBB works nowadays.

  • @panos @julian I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmyBB

    @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

  • @ryanch@mstdn.io said " I should note that there is already a Fediverse-native forum software called <a href="https://mstdn.io/tags/Lemmy" rel="tag">#<span>Lemmy</span></a> with a frontend that can imitate the look of old-school forums called LemmyBB. "

    I was curious to look at this, but Lemmybb code hasnt been updated in 2years and I couldn't find any other running instance.
    What happened to the project?

    @eeeee I believe LemmyBB was a proof-of-concept, to show that Lemmy as it existed back then was able to be represented in the front-end as a tradtional forum.

    But also, nutomic (who may have made LemmyBB? not sure.) is a busy person who has a day job and doesn't work on lemmy full-time 🙂

  • Beautiful Mind (a forum migration story!)

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  • How do you actually find fediverse bloggers

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    @raginghungrypanda@lemm.ee for discovery, the best looking up-and-coming solution is Ghost. They've been around for a decade plus, but they're actively working on their ActivityPub integration. Early looks at their discovery reader is really promising. A separate tab for "Article" type posts, and another for "feed" type posts. A lot of the other long form softwares are aligning on the standard that Ghost will try to set... NodeBB, WriteFreely, WordPress, etc. They've all signalled compatibility with each other, which is great! For more, see @index@activitypub.ghost.org
  • NodeBB - v3.3.0

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  • Nodebb - iframely

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    In der Anleitung von iframely werden zwei Tools angesprochen, um den Dienst dauerhaft am Laufen zu halten. forever pm2 Ich habe beide ausprobiert, pm2 recht intensiv. Bin aber zu der Überzeugung gekommen, das es für mich nicht sinnvoll ist eines dieser Tools zu nutzen. Meine NodeJS Fähigkeiten sind sehr überschaubar, so das ich mich mit keinem der Tools richtig wohl gefühlt habe. Also machen wir es so, wie es in Debian 11 eingebaut ist - mit systemd Hier das File wie ich den Dienst starte. [Unit] Description=Iframely Documentation=https://iframely.com/docs/host After=system.slice multi-user.target [Service] Type=simple User=<USER> StandardOutput=syslog StandardError=syslog SyslogIdentifier=iframely WorkingDirectory=/home/<USER>/iframely PIDFile=/home/<USER>/iframely/pidfile ExecStart=/usr/bin/node cluster Restart=always [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target
  • NodeBB - Upgrade v2.0.0

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    Irgendwie hatte ich Differenzen zwischen meinen beiden Foren, die es eigentlich nicht geben dürfte!? Problem scheint zu sein, das das Plugin nodebb-plugin-ns-embed nicht richtig funktioniert. Da bekam ich den Tipp, das Plugin nodebb-plugin-embed zu installieren. Das ging aber nicht über das Admin Panel, da kam folgendes. [image: 1653559307844-plugin_error.png] Ok, dann von Hand npm install nodebb-plugin-embed Im Admin Panel aktivieren, danach Rebuild und Restarten. Aktuell in v2.0.0 nicht über das Admin Panle durchführbar, Fix ist schon fertig. Kommt wohl mit v2.0.1 ./nodebb upgrade ./nodebb restart Danach lief alles!?? Hoffe ich
  • NodeBB - Update auf v1.18.6

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