'We're done with Teams': German state hits uninstall on Microsoft
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schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 16:36 zuletzt editiert vonThis post did not contain any content.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 16:50 zuletzt editiert von ulrich@feddit.org
The whole article is a good read but this is the important bit:
Instead, the northern state will turn to open-source software to "take back control" over data storage and ensure "digital sovereignty", its digitalisation minister, Dirk Schroedter, told AFP.
They also blame Trump which is pretty hilarious but probably not terribly relevant to the community.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 16:51 zuletzt editiert von
That includes Windows, right?
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Right?
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That includes Windows, right?
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Right?
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schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 16:59 zuletzt editiert vonYes, they'll use Linux.
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Yes, they'll use Linux.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:11 zuletzt editiert von themurphy@lemmy.mlLinux is great for government work.
They dont need compatibility as much. They have their systems only they use, therefore they can easily make them on Linux or emulate.
Otherwise they need a office suite like Libre.
And there's money to save. Benefits the whole country.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:13 zuletzt editiert von
This seems to be the same article, but uses a URL that doesn't lead to a page that is essentially blank for me: https://us.afpnews.com/article/?were-done-with-teams-german-state-hits-uninstall-on-microsoft,49PM3G2
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This seems to be the same article, but uses a URL that doesn't lead to a page that is essentially blank for me: https://us.afpnews.com/article/?were-done-with-teams-german-state-hits-uninstall-on-microsoft,49PM3G2
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:19 zuletzt editiert von satyrsack@lemmy.sdf.orgIs that not literally the same link as the OP?
EDIT: Ah, the OP's edit from 30 minutes before your comment has not federated out to your instance yet.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:22 zuletzt editiert von
I want to say various cities/regions in Germany make statements like this every few years? And they usually end up rolling back when it becomes clear the cost to retrain both existing staff and new staff isn't worth it.
That said: This gets the national security bump so maybe it will stick. Also nobody on the planet likes to use Teams.
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Linux is great for government work.
They dont need compatibility as much. They have their systems only they use, therefore they can easily make them on Linux or emulate.
Otherwise they need a office suite like Libre.
And there's money to save. Benefits the whole country.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:25 zuletzt editiert vonThey have their systems only they use, therefore they can easily make them on Linux or emulate.
Also, a lot of systems are web-based (and therefore automatically multi-platform) these days.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:27 zuletzt editiert von
It was barely tolerable, then they gated proper noise cancellation behind some AI privacy destroying BS. Excellent choice, fu Microsoft
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I want to say various cities/regions in Germany make statements like this every few years? And they usually end up rolling back when it becomes clear the cost to retrain both existing staff and new staff isn't worth it.
That said: This gets the national security bump so maybe it will stick. Also nobody on the planet likes to use Teams.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:28 zuletzt editiert vonYes, but: this endeavour comes after/along with the development of a unified "open desk ", a replacement solution for the office and collaboration tools from microsoft etc, backed by the federal government. This ensures a base layer of interoperability between offices and makes training probably easier.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:31 zuletzt editiert von
do France next
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Yes, but: this endeavour comes after/along with the development of a unified "open desk", a replacement solution for the office and collaboration tools from microsoft etc, backed by the federal government. This ensures a base layer of interoperability between offices and makes training probably easier.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:39 zuletzt editiert vonAnd if it sticks, good. But it still has the fundamental problem of needing to re-train all your existing employees AND train new staff who haven't been brought up in that system.
Its on a completely different scale, but plenty of tech youtubers have done the "Let's get rid of all the Adobe in my life". Some succeed. Most tend to come down on some variation of "I can do about 99% of what I used to do in these two or three tools. And these ten things are actually genuinely easier and more performant. But we can't take a month off making videos to get all of our editors up to speed. And this also removes our ability to contract out an edit to someone with the industry standard workflow". And from my professional experience in different fields, that is true. Hiring someone and then spending a week or a month so they can use YOUR tools becomes a huge burden in not too long of a time.
I really hope Germany pulls it off this time and more governments follow. But I also remember all the other times I have read this story.
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do France next
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:00 zuletzt editiert vonAren't French authorities quite ahed on FOSS adoption in their platform? I.e. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en
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Aren't French authorities quite ahed on FOSS adoption in their platform? I.e. https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/en
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:46 zuletzt editiert voneven the most sensitive information are collected through Microsoft and government sites use adobe too
Windows is the OS in almost all government computers.
not to forget all the WhatsApp use for official communication
facebook and xitter accounts of most government offices are still active
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The whole article is a good read but this is the important bit:
Instead, the northern state will turn to open-source software to "take back control" over data storage and ensure "digital sovereignty", its digitalisation minister, Dirk Schroedter, told AFP.
They also blame Trump which is pretty hilarious but probably not terribly relevant to the community.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:58 zuletzt editiert vonTrump's executive order forced Microsoft to disable access for ICC's Chief Prosecutor. So, in a sense, Trump is indeed a threat to digital sovereignty.
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Trump's executive order forced Microsoft to disable access for ICC's Chief Prosecutor. So, in a sense, Trump is indeed a threat to digital sovereignty.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 19:00 zuletzt editiert von ulrich@feddit.orgOh, he is a threat to all types of sovereignty, in every sense.
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Yes, they'll use Linux.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 19:12 zuletzt editiert vonEs ist wirklich das Jahr des Linux-Desktops
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They have their systems only they use, therefore they can easily make them on Linux or emulate.
Also, a lot of systems are web-based (and therefore automatically multi-platform) these days.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 19:31 zuletzt editiert vonDon't forget, most computers are faster on Linux than on the newest windows version, so you can hold off on upgrades for longer if the hardware is physically fine, which just further decreases costs.
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Is that not literally the same link as the OP?
EDIT: Ah, the OP's edit from 30 minutes before your comment has not federated out to your instance yet.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 19:55 zuletzt editiert vonI currently see this URL provided by https://thebrainbin.org/u/@Pro@programming.dev and it is not identical: https://us.afpnews.com/article/?were-done-with-teams-german-state-hits-uninstall-on-microsoft%2C49PM3G2=
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