Your TV Is Spying On You
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Where can I read about these mesh networks?
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 19:52 zuletzt editiert vonThink there was an article in... I think wired a couple years back.
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A couple I'm aware of:
But like flightyhobler suggested, if you keep an eye on your DNS logs with Pi-hole or managed services like AdGuard DNS and NextDNS you'll get a better idea of what's still getting through.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 20:14 zuletzt editiert vonThank you for posting this! You saved me a search
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Some TVs will sneakily connect to open APs to try and phone home. It is nasty but it does happen. You can only be worry free if you yank out the radio module. Some TVs make it easier than others (My LG TV made it as easy as opening the back of the TV and disconnecting, YMMV)
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 20:46 zuletzt editiert vonMy TV isn't a "smart" tv.
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What 4K TV can I buy that doesn’t do this guys help? Or should I stick to monitors???
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 20:47 zuletzt editiert vonLook for Signage Displays. They're basically TVs with different software.
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:05 zuletzt editiert vonI just don’t own a tv. Getting rid of my entertainment and gaming systems and most of social media was my answer to internal peace. I don’t have streaming either.
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:07 zuletzt editiert vonI guess I'll stick with my 2012 Toshiba 55" dumb TV.
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for streaming, yeah, for tracking its plenty
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:21 zuletzt editiert von100Mbit/s is plenty for streaming even 8k
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:23 zuletzt editiert vonSometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
That's a pretty neat FPS for a tv.
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Look for Signage Displays. They're basically TVs with different software.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:44 zuletzt editiert vonNever heard of those before. Thanks
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The built-in OS on smart TVs almost always sucks. The built-in OS on our LG is slower, has less apps, and has less support for HDR and higher resolutions than our Fire stick.
Just don't use it and instead plug in a Fire stick, turn off its tracking, then sideload apps like BeeTV and HDO Box.
I know Amazon has a bad rep from a privacy standpoint but the Fire stick is super cheap compared to its competition and lets you turn off the tracking in one page of the settings menu.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 21:59 zuletzt editiert von hootmcgoot@lemm.eeThe article says the TVs still capture input and do recognition from external sources so using an external device is not helping.
Edit: Unless your tv is not connected to the internet.
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Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
That's a pretty neat FPS for a tv.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:04 zuletzt editiert von beveradb@sh.itjust.worksYeah I'm calling bullshit on that quote, I'd like to see proof of any smart TV having beefy enough hardware to record anything at 100fps+, and even then what would be the point? Nothing played back on the screen will even have a frame rate and 60fps... I'm sure this is a lazy article mistake
EDIT: I take it back, I talked it out with Gemini and understand the logic and realistic implementation now, it's a dedicated part of the SoC design. Still hate the fact that this is a thing, we just need to spread the word about not connecting your actual TV to the internet at all ever.
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The article says the TVs still capture input and do recognition from external sources so using an external device is not helping.
Edit: Unless your tv is not connected to the internet.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:54 zuletzt editiert vonThe TV can still connect via weave, Amazon sidewalk, or other mesh networks through your neighbors doorbell or thermostat or whatever... Even if you never connect it, it could still report. Have to open it up and destroy the antennas.
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You sit down to relax, put on your favorite show, and settle in for a night of binge-watching. But while you’re watching your TV… your TV is watching you.
Smart TVs take constant snapshots of everything you watch. Sometimes hundreds of snapshots a second.
Welcome to the future of "entertainment."
Your TV Is Spying On You — Ludlow Institute
Your TV is taking snapshots of everything you watch.
Ludlow Institute (www.ludlowinstitute.org)
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:09 zuletzt editiert vonMine ain't, I'm using an ancient dumb TV.
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How old is it ? Which one did you buy
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:41 zuletzt editiert von2 1920x1080 LG ones probably over 10 years ago. If smart TVs can't get online they can't spy on you.
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Jokes on them: I watch videos on my tablet. There’s no way that’s spying on me, right? Right?
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:26 zuletzt editiert vonNot if your tablet runs an open source operating system without tracking. Like GrapheneOS or LineageOS, which both can be set up entirely without Google services, or sandboxing apps.
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Yeah I'm calling bullshit on that quote, I'd like to see proof of any smart TV having beefy enough hardware to record anything at 100fps+, and even then what would be the point? Nothing played back on the screen will even have a frame rate and 60fps... I'm sure this is a lazy article mistake
EDIT: I take it back, I talked it out with Gemini and understand the logic and realistic implementation now, it's a dedicated part of the SoC design. Still hate the fact that this is a thing, we just need to spread the word about not connecting your actual TV to the internet at all ever.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:58 zuletzt editiert vonIf they were recording so much couldnt tv makers be held liable for recording another companies property.
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Mine ain't, I'm using an ancient dumb TV.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:03 zuletzt editiert vonI'm not, but I've disconnected the Internet from it. It can try all it wants to send the data to the mother ship.
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Mine ain't, I'm using an ancient dumb TV.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:15 zuletzt editiert voneven better we dont use tv anymore, just a PC.
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Mine ain't, I'm using an ancient dumb TV.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:16 zuletzt editiert von99% of what we watch is from streaming (Netflix, YouTube, etc). A dumb tv with a Chromecast probably isn't any better.
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I'm not, but I've disconnected the Internet from it. It can try all it wants to send the data to the mother ship.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:17 zuletzt editiert vonSoon they may come with cellular capacity. Cars and e-bikes already do.
You gotta Faraday cage it!
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