SpaceX's Starship blows up ahead of 10th test flight
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It's not a starship, at best it's a low Earth orbit ship.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 20:31 zuletzt editiert vonFor a couple of minutes.
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People really put the faith of the entire American space program on Elon. It would be funny if it wasn't so stupid.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 20:49 zuletzt editiert von weew@lemmy.caIt's less that people are putting faith in Elon (sure, some fanatics might be), but it's that everyone else is somehow even worse.
SpaceX is actually getting stuff to space, despite their prototypes blowing up. Hell, even if this Starship thing is a complete failure and never works, their existing rocket, the Falcon, is still far beyond any of the competition.
The SLS: $10 Billion and a decade late to develop a ship that recycles old Space shuttle parts, then costs $2-3 Billion per launch, and maybe can only launch one every 2 years.
ULA Vulcan: currently years late, still finding problems, and even after all that gets worked out, it can maybe do 6 launches a year?
SpaceX: 1-2 launches per week.
That's not faith, that's just facts. I would absolutely love to have somebody else step up and take SpaceX's crown, but... there really isn't anybody. Bezos's Blue Origin may have the biggest chance, but they are more likely to act like ULA than SpaceX.
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We shouldn’t be building rockets PERIOD. They cost too much and are eventually only going to serve trillionaires.
FIX SHIT ON THE GROUND FIRST
That said,
They did a test from 300 meters, sure it’s cool but I think they have a LONG way to go before they are competetive.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 20:56 zuletzt editiert vonIf you like SatNav, accurate weather tracking, and advanced intercontinental communication then ya like rockets ya dipshit.
While Id be the first to ban private rocket launches outright, we shouldn't abandon the advances of the space age because of them.
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NASA has always been dependent on commercial for profit entities as contractors. The Space Shuttle was developed by Rockwell International (which was later acquired by Boeing). The Apollo Program relied heavily on Boeing, Douglas Aircraft (which later merged into McDonnell Douglas, and then merged with Boeing), and North American Aviation (which later became Rockwell and was acquired by Boeing), and IBM. Lots of cutting edge stuff in that era happened from government contracts throwing money at private corporations.
That's the whole military industrial complex Eisenhower was talking about.
The only difference with today is that space companies have other customers to choose from, not just NASA (or the Air Force/Space Force).
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 21:22 zuletzt editiert vonNASA ran the projects. They have specifications to contractors for manufacturing. That's a far cry from farming out the entire process and renting space on a commercial rocket.
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He’s a chicken shit ? Why are all these tough guy conservatives such pussies
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 22:18 zuletzt editiert vonI mean, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't want to risk death. He knows it's not risk-free.
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good.
sad that he wasn't on it though.
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I'm all for mankind colonizing the stars, but I don't want that A hole down a K hole Elmo involved in any way. I don't trust the cunt not to have a back door into the colony, that he opens whenever his fee fee's get hurt, or if his K hole runs dry.
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I mean, I wouldn't either. I wouldn't want to risk death. He knows it's not risk-free.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:08 zuletzt editiert vonNeither is doing elephant sized doses of Ketamine
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Honestly, rocket development has always been filled with explosions - the Saturn V had like 6 engine-out events during Apollo and the early Falcon 9 tests were just as explosive. what's different now is we get to see the failures in HD livestreams instead of classified footage that would've been buried in the 60s.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:26 zuletzt editiert vonComparing an engine out where the mission went on without issue and a huge fireball on the pad is apples and oranges.
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I now have the Street Fighter voice in my head going:
"Honda Wins!"
For the killjoy that will come pointing out that SpaceX is at another level of development etc., yes, I know that.
Japan also has a constitution written by the US that doesn't permit them to have long-range missiles.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:28 zuletzt editiert vonHardly. Honda have just replicated what Falcon 9 has been doing every week for years.
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I'm all for mankind colonizing the stars, but I don't want that A hole down a K hole Elmo involved in any way. I don't trust the cunt not to have a back door into the colony, that he opens whenever his fee fee's get hurt, or if his K hole runs dry.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:44 zuletzt editiert vonOh please. Elon will long be dead before we are ever seriously colonizing mars.
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Break out the marshmallows
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:45 zuletzt editiert vonRocket fuel is toxic. Don't cook with it. Don't touch or breathe it. Don't even look at it.
Once it's burned it's mostly safe, aside from the usual problems with combustion products.
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Waiting for the SpaceX bros to tell everyone how this was actually a good thing because it was supposed to happen and means everything is going well.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 00:37 zuletzt editiert von“iT wAs A rApId UnScHeDuLeD dIsSaSsEmBlY”
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I think Honda has begun building spaceships/rockets too. Think they chose to build the type that don't explode. link
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 00:40 zuletzt editiert vonJapanese cars are superior to American cars, why wouldn't their rockets be?
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How many times does this gotta happen before we start calling them missiles instead of rockets?
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NASA ran the projects. They have specifications to contractors for manufacturing. That's a far cry from farming out the entire process and renting space on a commercial rocket.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 01:42 zuletzt editiert vonNASA funded SpaceX based on hitting milestones on their COTS program. Those were just as available to Boeing and Blue Origin, but they had less success meeting those milestones and making a profit under fixed price contracts (as opposed to the traditional cost plus contracts). It's still NASA-defined standards, only with an offloading of the risk and uncertainty onto the private contractors, which was great for SpaceX and terrible for Boeing.
But ultimately it's still just contracting.
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Oh please. Elon will long be dead before we are ever seriously colonizing mars.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 02:29 zuletzt editiert vonThat's his only redeeming feature...that he'll be dead one day.
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If you like SatNav, accurate weather tracking, and advanced intercontinental communication then ya like rockets ya dipshit.
While Id be the first to ban private rocket launches outright, we shouldn't abandon the advances of the space age because of them.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 03:33 zuletzt editiert vonYou've got good points, but your needless insults makes your argument fall on deaf ears.
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Rocket fuel is toxic. Don't cook with it. Don't touch or breathe it. Don't even look at it.
Once it's burned it's mostly safe, aside from the usual problems with combustion products.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 04:20 zuletzt editiert vonIs LOX and methane really that bad?
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