The restrictions on apk access over the past 10 years have already been an annoying pita. Many of the best power user apks have had to gut themselves over their original functionality, all while obtaining root access over your owned devices has become harder or next to impossible.

Let them keep those. I hereby declare that if I don't own the thing, I ain't buying it. So no root, no $$$.

I did honestly think about this, but its honestly more trouble than it's worth. Carrying around two phones is just kind of am eh experience, plus I'm new, and I don't wanna be that guy. If I kept having issues with it, that is probably the route I would have ended up taking, but it's working as expected now. I'm not a FOSS purest or anything either way. I have a librebooted thinkpad, but I also have several proprietary apps on my phone. Its all about usability for me.

Yeah, but I still really like my micro SD card slot and pen on my note 20 ultra. Dunno what I'll do when I have to replace it.

Some apps only require 'basic' play integrity verification, but now check to see if they're installed via the Play Store. They refuse to run if they're installed via an alternative source.

This has been a problem for GrapheneOS, since some apps filter themselves out of the Play Store search if you don't pass strong play integrity, despite the fact that they don't require it. Luckily Graphene now had a bypass for this.

Eh, if you are still on a Gservices Version of Android you are lost anyway

So I just urge y'all to step back and watch at this clownshow.

There is exactly one app I use that is available only on play store - my bank.

I don't really need the app.

They have a website.

I have a few phones, just got one that now has grapheneOS.

I've been using it for a few weeks to see how it works before I switch over anything to use it as my main. it has a lot of very interesting privacy/security features to test out.

Either way, I don't get anything from the play store anymore.

It's F(L)OSS or a website.

As god intended.

Lol. So this API for 'security' and 'integrity' basically has a built in malware trojan:

Avoid caching integrity verdicts
Caching integrity verdicts increases the risk of proxying, which is an attack where a bad actor reuses a verdict from a good device for abusive purposes in another environment. Instead of caching responses, you can make a standard API request to get a verdict on demand.

It's funny because one browser I use is downloaded from the browsers website which I then use to install the update to said browser.

Google needs a Luigi.

Maybe you should curb your enthusiasm a bit. have you seen what it take to unlock the bootloader from most manufacturers? you might even need your grandma's birth certificate before you're allowed to do so in the future

This is an ad

The pen is the only reason I have stuck with Samsung. If they made a Pixel with a smart pen that I could put GrapheneOS on I'd buy it in a second.

Yeah. Id pick up a redmi 10+ pro if it had a pen and sacrifice away the SD card slot. Id at least have a huge battery and awesome cooling.

I am aware, but what choices do we have? I for one stopped using banking apps in my Android phone, not a big deal, we didn't have banking apps there pre 2007 right?

I know not everyone can do it, but we can fight back in our own ways.

And voting with your wallet should be an obvious statement at this point.

CalyxOS works with most banking apps, and is don't degoogled.

Honestly other than a fingerprint lock, I've found the apps suck compared to just a browser on a PC anyhow. Half the apps could just be webpages, and a bunch of those are just wrappers to a web rendering layer anyhow

This sucks, I don't want a world where o have to carry around 2 devices (a private one and a standard spyware one)

Its a straight ad

This article is a thinly veiled ad paired with fearmongering to get gullible users to buy the shit phones they sell (or not, some people have been on "waitlists" for 5+ years after providing a full payment).

Granted, their phones are fully open, but have next to no apps.

Personally I'll stick with Android 12, rooted, and see what the future brings.