I've been using Zen which is nice and has some stuff removed that we don't want.

But it'll only be around as long as Firefox is around.

people who never donated or contributed getting made at mozilla cancelling services like pocket and fakespot is amusing.

Exactly. I'm not running to chrome with it's defanged ad blockers and Google stink.

I'm not happy with how Mozilla leadership has navigated the ship, but what is the alternative? If Mozilla dies, there isn't enough funding for one of the forks to take over the browser.

I’m in the same boat using Zen. Eagerly waiting on Ladybird to come out. They are writing it from the ground up not even a package being used according to them. Oh and this isn’t some rando this is a guy who done decades of coding(mostly browser) so my hopes are high as Snoop

LibreWolf? Its just firefox minus the crap?

I for one would love to throw money at Mozilla, or any alternative, that has experienced developers behind it, doesn't have conflicts of interest and acts on behalf of its users. This is why I donate to Servo, Ladybird and Dillo too (I know one of these is not like the others ).

I don't think they'd reach their current levels of funding through donations, but it might be possible to get enough together to keep it on life support.

I know this wouldn't be perfect, but surely better than losing it completely.

There are reasons I went to Seamonkey for a couple of years, then to Pale Moon (which is divergent enough now that I expect it to keep chugging along even if Firefox folds—most of Mozilla's patches are no longer relevant to its codebase). I'm interested to see what Ladybird will bring to the table, though.

But where does libre wolf go if Mozilla vanishes?

Orion browser is also good. Coming to Linux soon.

Regardless of opinions, this article opinion piece is written like by an angry teenage nerd.

I don't understand what these angry anti FF people want that keep on having weekly rants on the topic. You are free to not use the software if you don't like it or the company or whatever. Just move on and be happy.

I'm getting tired of these haters any time Mozilla does literally anything and there is not a single constructive idea ever but the demand that Mozilla must operate like a benefactor for nerds that do not have to pay for anything ever.

Damn, I almost wish Mozilla went commercial with FF to fund the development of it just because.

It won’t disappear, but the version number will be frozen. I kinda prefer to have security updates on a regular basis.

Probably not but it would probably fall behind chromium based projects without corporate sponsorship of its core rendering engine and javascript runtime.

ladybird

No planned windows support though 🫤

isn't onion b. just tor browser adapted to the limitations of ios?

They had many years to develop alternative sources of income instead of relying solely on Google. But instead, they’ve been chasing every trend set by big corporations for no clear reason. I really dislike their CEO and the entire leadership team — they’re destroying Mozilla from the inside. Rather than implementing a recovery plan, which they could’ve done years ago, they allowed the company to remain dependent on Google.
From what I know, internal relationships among coworkers are poor. People either do whatever they want or nothing at all. If you try to bring new ideas to the CEO and you're not close to them, you're basically fucked up
With an organization being managed like this, there’s no path forward other than continued decline. Sadly, Mozilla is likely to die for all the reasons mentioned above

No, it’s a different project that runs on WebKit. The iOS version is fully open source, but as for desktop development, they mentioned that it will be open sourced in the future. It’s Safari, but with enhanced features. You can install both Chrome and Firefox extensions. It’s one of the fastest browsers I’ve used.

Ok, don't use it but when all the pages work only in Chrome with disabled AdBlock don't come back crying.

Isn't it technically possible to split browser functions so we can recombine as we like? - i.e. separating the rendering / js engine from everything around the side - managing all the tabs, bookmarks, cookies and passwords, workspaces and sessions, mail, notes etc.
In my case, I like the workspace structure provided by Vivaldi, but don't see why it has to be built on chromium browser.
Anyway as a developer I need to test against blink, webkit and gecko, so would be nice to swap them within the same user interface structure.
By the way, I develop a "javascript-heavy" web-app (interactive climate model) and it seems to be working fine, and fast, in firefox, so I'm not convinced by complaints in the article.