Signal – an ethical replacement for WhatsApp
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:27 zuletzt editiert vonYou're using the wrong lemmy server then, no problem with mine
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I use Element.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:30 zuletzt editiert vonI use both and have been happy with both, but note that Element / Matrix have recently announced the intent to add paid service tiers.
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:13 zuletzt editiert vonIt doesn't matter if you hide the number; at some point they deanonymized you when you signed up.
Want to be a dick about "hoops"? Get a number that isn't traceable. It can be done, but it's tough. I doubt its possible in the countries that really need anonymity of association.
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:27 zuletzt editiert vonIf you're reading this comment, I posted it from proton vpn
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The founder of SimpleX is out of his mind. Check yourself: https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:03 zuletzt editiert von fireiced@lemmy.super.ynh.frIt doesn’t look good indeed…
Sadly, that’s what we have to work with. The app is pretty good though
TIL the founder is a transphobic and conservative piece of shit
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I believe in it,... for now.
I moved my family group to xmpp to have more personal control over our chats. Signal seems benevolent, but I've seen this play out before. Will it stay that way? We treat online forums with the idea that federstion works to stop enshittificstion. I believe XMPP is a good model for federating secure chatrooms for the same reason: People should control the voices of the people, not companies.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:33 zuletzt editiert vonI am so excited to see people embracing xmpp! I’ve been using it since 2010 and I was really bummed when my company got swallowed up by a huge conglomerate and we were forced to use their shitty proprietary one.
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It doesn’t look good indeed…
Sadly, that’s what we have to work with. The app is pretty good though
TIL the founder is a transphobic and conservative piece of shit
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:43 zuletzt editiert vonMade a post to raise awareness
Avoid the lemmy.ml community because it’s moderated by that fucker
SimpleX's founder is transphobic, anti abortion, conservative, pro Israel, climatosceptic - programming.dev
https://lemmy.world/comment/17819080 [https://lemmy.world/comment/17819080] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1936818525915513091 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1936818525915513091] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1872333085179871696 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1872333085179871696] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1882531429546074480 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1882531429546074480] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1870950830654030109 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1870950830654030109] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841] As well as the many retweets
(programming.dev)
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I use both and have been happy with both, but note that Element / Matrix have recently announced the intent to add paid service tiers.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:47 zuletzt editiert vonFair enough, servers cost, you can self host it too...
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:57 zuletzt editiert vonDuck duck Go VPN connection here
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How many apps did you ask them to download?
Personally, I only asked for this one, and everyone who is of importance to me chose to do it.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 12:33 zuletzt editiert vonI went from Telegram to WhatsApp. That was enough to annoy my people.
You know and I was the biggest smack talker of apple and I got the 16 pro just to get encryption when talking to my mom and husband. I can see why people like these things.
But it does feel very basic coming from a long time Samsung user.
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Fair enough, servers cost, you can self host it too...
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 13:40 zuletzt editiert vonRemeber, If it's "free", you are the product.
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The problem is there's no one on signal that I want to talk to. So "just ditch the app" isn't actually helpful.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 15:03 zuletzt editiert vonJust need to move everyone. Not that hard honestly, if you are around smart people
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Just need to move everyone. Not that hard honestly, if you are around smart people
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 15:31 zuletzt editiert von" It's not that hard really all you have to do is be around people who already want to move over". Yeah thanks for that advice.
I have a very similar strategy to being rich, step one is to be rich already. Simplicity itself.
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Remeber, If it's "free", you are the product.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 16:37 zuletzt editiert vonBoth technologies are open source. It's a common model of compensation for the developers, pay as your able.
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Remeber, If it's "free", you are the product.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 20:56 zuletzt editiert vonA friend hosts my instance. I don’t expect free as in beer hosting, only free as in speech code and protocols.
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Unfortunately the source code is not open
Wrong.
Open Source – Transparency Matters – Threema
The Threema apps are open source. Find out how to download and compile the source code, and learn more about reproducible builds.
Threema (threema.com)
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 01:59 zuletzt editiert vonThat's just the client, the server architecture is what really matters.
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That's just the client, the server architecture is what really matters.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 05:04 zuletzt editiert vonThanks, yeah someone else said similar here.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 08:39 zuletzt editiert von
When they dropped sms support I was no longer able to convince people to migrate to signal.
Before I could make the argument that you need one sms app anyway so that app might just as well be Signal instead of the one that comes preloaded with your phone. That way people would gradually get more and more secure messaging as time went on. When sms support was dropped, Signal could not replace an existing app and adding another messing app is much less appealing than replacing one.
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" It's not that hard really all you have to do is be around people who already want to move over". Yeah thanks for that advice.
I have a very similar strategy to being rich, step one is to be rich already. Simplicity itself.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 11:43 zuletzt editiert vonWhy are you friend with stupid people?
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Why are you friend with stupid people?
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 12:43 zuletzt editiert von echodot@feddit.ukWhy are you being intentionally disingenuous?
I will say it again just so it's stated.
People are not going to move to another service unless they can obviously see the benefit in moving to that service. People who are not technically inclined (that doesn't mean stupid) are not going to see the benefit.Don't be rude about people you don't know anything about. Don't insult their intelligence just because they're not as interested in a very niche area of technology as you are.
::: spoiler spoiler
Why are you friend with stupid people?
Also note that if you are going to be rude about people you know nothing about, you had better check your grammar
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