lemm.ee is shutting down at the end of this month
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Welcome to Lemmy.zip - Lemmy.zip
Hello to all of our new users. I wish we could all meet in better circumstances. The closing of lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] is a real blow to the fediverse, and I have nothing but the greatest respect for the lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] admin team. Lemm.ee [http://Lemm.ee] was a cornerstone of the lemmy community, and set a high bar for moderation and technical performance. Finding a home on the fediverse can be tough. Whether you’re here to lurk, post, moderate, or contribute in your own way, we’re glad you’ve joined us. Lemmy.zip might not replace what was lost, but we hope it can become a lemmy instance where you can feel at home. — Everyone should receive a welcome PM when they sign up to Lemmy.zip from the ever-present dark lord overseer friendly bot, ZippyBot. However, in case poor Zippy has been overworked and forgotten to send the PM to you, here’s some helpful information regarding Lemmy.zip! - All of our policies can be found at legal.lemmy.zip [https://legal.lemmy.zip/]. This includes our Code of Conduct. Please (please!) have a read of this. Our number 1 rule is Remember the human! (no harassment, threats, etc.). We absolutely adhere to this. Treat people with respect. - When you created your account, we set up some “Default Blocks”. If you want a more unfiltered Lemmy experience, you can head to your account settings [https://lemmy.zip/settings] and remove the blocks. You can read more about this in our Welcome Post [https://lemmy.zip/post/43] - they are currently hexbear and lemmgrad. - We have monthly updates! You can read the latest one here! [https://lemmy.zip/post/39959863]. We’re always open to suggestions if there’s anything else you’d like to see in these. - We have some metrics around federation for the curious among you. The link is in the sidebar or you can click here! [https://grafana.lemmy.zip/public-dashboards/bac0acae9cd942f88a65b1a7c94503d2] - We have our status page at status.lemmy.zip [https://status.lemmy.zip/]. In the unlikely event the server becomes sentient and starts a robot uprising, full details will be available here. Finally, your admin team is myself (Demigodrick [/u/demigodrick@lemmy.zip]), Sami [/u/sami@lemmy.zip], Druid [/u/v4ld1z@lemmy.zip], and Gazby [/u/gazby@lemmy.zip]. Please reach out to any of us if you feel you need help or support with anything. We also have a support email - hello@lemmy.zip. — If you have any questions, please let us know and we’ll do our best to answer them. Thanks, The Lemmy.zip Admin Team
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Oh nice! Thanks!
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I haven't been following Reddit events since I left a couple years ago, but if there have been recent ban waves for bad behaviour, it wouldn't surprise me to see corresponding upticks in it here.
I wish more of us spoke up against rudeness, confidently incorrect ignorance, combativeness, tribalism, brigading, and other such stuff when it rears its head here. If all of us participated in moderation, I suspect it would be more effective and make our mods' lives easier.
People were being banned for up voting posts that got removed.
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And at least the average Lemmy user isn't a complete fucking idiot.
Please, allow myself to introduce... Myself.
Hi. My name is TachyonTele.
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hey, real talk. if the users weren't so obnoxious maybe the admins wouldn't be burnt-the-fuck-out...
Unlike you, right?
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The double edged sword of not defederating from other instances is that the worst instaces that most block will use your space to keep shoveling their bullshit to more people.
It creats a lot of extra work for the admins/mods
What are the worst instances?
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a user on lemm.ee would have to export their settings and create a new account elsewhere, right?
Yes
Do their comments and post histories get exported too?
No, but if I understand it correctly, they will live on in other servers that were federated at the time they were posted.
Thank you kindly!
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
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a user on lemm.ee would have to export their settings and create a new account elsewhere, right?
Yes
Do their comments and post histories get exported too?
No, but if I understand it correctly, they will live on in other servers that were federated at the time they were posted.
Oh I didn't realise that how it worked.
Doesn't that mean that the hosting requirements for every instance are just going to become unfeasibly large as time goes on, or do the files get cleared out after a couple of years?
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wasnt enough to save the instance, they were probably running as a skeleton crew ever since they asked the need ofr admin.
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Why couldn’t they just leave it be? People can block anyone that they don’t want to see posts from. Is it really that important to have an army of people banning anyone who they disagree with?
What else do the admin team do other than ban people and remove posts and comments?
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hey, real talk. if the users weren't so obnoxious maybe the admins wouldn't be burnt-the-fuck-out...
Really giving everyone a prime example of that, thanks!
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Unlike you, right?
do I seem burnt out?
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Why couldn’t they just leave it be? People can block anyone that they don’t want to see posts from. Is it really that important to have an army of people banning anyone who they disagree with?
What else do the admin team do other than ban people and remove posts and comments?
- Not providing a platform for activities that harm society (e.g. scams, disinformation).
- Not providing a platform for activities that will get you sued or prosecuted (e.g. piracy, child porn).
- They had to pay a considerable amount for the service.
On social media, putting the burden of blocking on a million users is naive because:
- Blocks can be worked around with bots, someone has to actively fight circumvention.
- Some users don't have the time to block, simply conclude "this is a hostile environment" and leave.
- Some users fall for scams / believe the disinfo.
I have once helped others build an anonymous mix network (I2P). I'm also an anarchist. On Lemmy however, support decentralization, defederating from instances that have bad policies or corrupt management, and harsh moderation. Because the operator of a Lemmy instance is fully exposed.
Experience has shown that total freedom is a suitable policy for apps that support 1-to-1 conversations via short text messages. Everything else invites too much abuse. If it's public, it will have rules. If it's totally private, it can have total freedom.
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Good riddance
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Why couldn’t they just leave it be? People can block anyone that they don’t want to see posts from. Is it really that important to have an army of people banning anyone who they disagree with?
What else do the admin team do other than ban people and remove posts and comments?
Exactly, the censorship and banning on there was ridiculous.
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.ee was my second favorate general instance after .ml I will be very sad to see it go
After .ml?
Then how can you even like lemm.ee and its right-wing mods?
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Thank you so much for providing my home instance. Have enjoyed Lemm.ee the past two years.
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- Not providing a platform for activities that harm society (e.g. scams, disinformation).
- Not providing a platform for activities that will get you sued or prosecuted (e.g. piracy, child porn).
- They had to pay a considerable amount for the service.
On social media, putting the burden of blocking on a million users is naive because:
- Blocks can be worked around with bots, someone has to actively fight circumvention.
- Some users don't have the time to block, simply conclude "this is a hostile environment" and leave.
- Some users fall for scams / believe the disinfo.
I have once helped others build an anonymous mix network (I2P). I'm also an anarchist. On Lemmy however, support decentralization, defederating from instances that have bad policies or corrupt management, and harsh moderation. Because the operator of a Lemmy instance is fully exposed.
Experience has shown that total freedom is a suitable policy for apps that support 1-to-1 conversations via short text messages. Everything else invites too much abuse. If it's public, it will have rules. If it's totally private, it can have total freedom.
Some users don’t have the time to block, simply conclude “this is a hostile environment” and leave.
This exactly.
As the anecdote puts it, once you start tolerating Nazis in your bar, it becomes a Nazi bar.
They poison the space, and the regular folks leave.
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Damn, it was like the 2/3rd most active instance
https://lemmyverse.net/ to search for a new instance
complete tangent: I see lemmy.world is listed there, but anyone knows why .world doesn't appear on join-lemmy.org's list of servers?
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complete tangent: I see lemmy.world is listed there, but anyone knows why .world doesn't appear on join-lemmy.org's list of servers?
Yeah, I noticed that too, but the observer and the explorer in the same page show them, so...ok...🧐
Maybe they're trying to divide the load among different servers, so they don't serve .world as the obvious default choice.
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