Our Channel Could Be Deleted - Gamers Nexus
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But very clearly it isn’t here
How the hell isn't it?
Title: "Our Channel Could Be Deleted" <insert dramatic thumbnail featuring the word "SILENCED" in big capital letters>
Yet even in the video itself they explain that :
- Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video wil be restored. The only recourse Bloomberg has is to press actual charges in a court of law.
- It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel, not one.
And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.
I get that they're pissed because the claim was bogus and it cost them good ad revenue on that video, and they will probably not recoup the cost of making it, but the channel is not and never was in danger of being deleted. So the title is clickbait intended to generate outrage for some, let's be honest, rather mid content.
the amount of downvotes
LOL "I'm right because I got more upvotes".
How the hell isn’t it?
Because it is true, the channel could be deleted, and it was an obvious attempt by Bloomberg to silence him, which he shows many reason for why they may want to do in the video.
When it is true it is not clickbait.
Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored.
For the fourth time, it is NOT reverted, and the video is NOT restored.
It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel.
Maybe it is the third? You don't know, at least you haven't shown anything to indicate that you do.
And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.
Again Gamers Nexus is small fry for YouTube.
LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.
No you make false claims, and was downvoted for it. Usually click bait is an easily accepted answer, but here it was not because you are wrong.
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How the hell isn’t it?
Because it is true, the channel could be deleted, and it was an obvious attempt by Bloomberg to silence him, which he shows many reason for why they may want to do in the video.
When it is true it is not clickbait.
Youtube sided with them, the copyright strike got reverted and the video restored.
For the fourth time, it is NOT reverted, and the video is NOT restored.
It takes three copyright strikes to delete a channel.
Maybe it is the third? You don't know, at least you haven't shown anything to indicate that you do.
And I will add my own 3: YouTube will never just outright delete a cashcow channel like GamersNexus.
Again Gamers Nexus is small fry for YouTube.
LOL “I’m right because I got more upvotes”.
No you make false claims, and was downvoted for it. Usually click bait is an easily accepted answer, but here it was not because you are wrong.
How the fuck are you so dense?
Read my whole comment. It is demonstrably NOT true.
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So, there are options.
You have three challenges:
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You need to be discoverable
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you need to be accessible
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you need to monetize
If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.
Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.
Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.
Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.
Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.
edit: cut myself short
I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.
Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.
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How the fuck are you so dense?
Read my whole comment. It is demonstrably NOT true.
I did and edited my comment, adding more false claims doesn't make you right.
Also it's rich calling me dense, when you repeatedly make the same false claim that the take down is reverted when it is not. It's explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint, and if Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.You are very dense to not accept that when it's explained to you at least three times!!!
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Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?
Just because it's being normalized by the Linuses and Tech Jesuses on youtube doesn't mean we shouldn't call it what it is.
This video is click bait and the content is rather mid. We're clearly supposed to feel some kind of outrage over a freedom of press kinda thing, but in reality the video is more like: waaah our ad revenue took a hit on this one video because of Big Evil Company abusing the copyright claim system, NOT FAIR! (Ignoring that this has been happening hundreds if not thousands of times per day for over a decade to much smaller channels than GamersNexus, without a peep from Tech Jesus on the issue).
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Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.
He gets around 750 Million Youtube verified views per month , he's releasing about 5 hours of content per month.
He's not self-hosting that cheaply.
His sponsors are giving him the a nice pile of money based on his view count, he's not going to manage that on his own without the algo pumping users to him. Search engines kind of suck and video bloggers at that scale need organics to keep going.
You can't add monetization without discoverability and accessibility.
Looking at those numbers, I don't even know that peertube could handle it, he'd probably need to setup his own cluster to mirror them all.
There's a reason why we don't have a lot of competition to YouTube.
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I did and edited my comment, adding more false claims doesn't make you right.
Also it's rich calling me dense, when you repeatedly make the same false claim that the take down is reverted when it is not. It's explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint, and if Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.You are very dense to not accept that when it's explained to you at least three times!!!
It’s explained very clearly in the video, that it takes 10 days from filing the complaint. If Bloomberg persist on the issue, the take down stands.
I addressed this. Bloomberg must press actual legal charges for the takedown to stand, and provide proof to Youtube. This is mentioned very around 7:32 in the video. Here's a screenshot:
YouTube is basically saying to Bloomberg: yeah, we are ruling that this is not infringement, but if you still disagree and really want to press the issue... put your money where your mouth is and provide proof that you filed actual legal charges. They're only doing what is legally required of them by the DMCA.
And, as you conveniently keep ignoring, even if alllll this ends up with Bloomberg suing GamersNexus in a court of law and winning (a highly unlikely outcome) and the video being permanently delisted... that is still only 1 copyright strike, and not enough for "The Channel To Be Deleted!!!!". It basically takes 3 strikes within the same 90 days for a channel to be subject to deletion. Ergo: it is fucking click bait. Their channel is not and never was in danger of being deleted.
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It's clickbait.
It's not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted. They could very easily make another 2 or cause a lot more issues leading to the deletion of his account. An considering they don't want to talk to him at all, and even making this video will likely really piss them off, it absolutely does lead to the possibility that he has his account deleted
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.
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this is speculation, but it's possible that youtube don't like it when large mainstream creators have backup platforms and will start cracking down.
LOTS of big creators post their videos multiple places.
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It'd be dangerous to his revenue stream.
If he reduces views on YT, the algo will recommend him less. His internal sponsors won't pay more for the non YT content so he'll just be gutting his own traffic if it takes off. Assuming he has disks around with all his finished content on it, he could stand it up later if he wanted, but it's not like Peertube can host an unlimited amount of video for free. Someone is paying for those disks and for the transfer of those bits.
Ideally, he'd stand up his own PT and we'd share in watching his stuff and reduce costs Peer style. But he's still going to be out a serious payment stream and the PT network can't just perpetually bare the cost of his storage.
It's like if LMG wanted to host their back catalog, we'd need peer tube hosts with a PB of storage sitting around ready to take his catalog.
Linus has nowhere near a PB worth of content, between all of his channels.
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Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.
Theoretically, you could try to rely on patreon to have your audience pay you directly, but without discoverability, they will slowly dwindle and die. As to corporate sponsors, no one is going to pay for ads on torrented shows.
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Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about "in general"?
Why is this being downvoted? I'm genuinely asking questions
.You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.
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Oh, I didn't realize they said they wouldn't sell your information, despite having a privacy policy that explicitly allows for it. My mistake. No one would just lie on the internet like that...
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That is true, but yes Gamers Nexus is (relatively) small, and a million dollars can be gone in no time, if a multi billion dollar company decides you need to be gone.
1 million dollars is far from enough to run just a single somewhat high profile copyright lawsuit.This case is simple, so they will probably manage that pretty easily, there is basically no way Bloomberg can win. It's just a typical harassment tactic that will work against by far the most smaller outlets. But Steve is smart, he knows bullshit when he sees it, and he is not easily scared.
But if Bloomberg gets pissed enough, Gamers Nexus could soon be toast. Just like Gamers Nexus has friends more powerful than themselves, so does Bloomberg.
And 3 frivolous take down notices can appear from various sources in no time. And to YouTube Gamers Nexus is definitely small fry.
Fortunately, New York has anti-SLAPP laws. In fact, they made them stronger when it comes to matters that touch free speech on public issues, which is what reporting something the president said would fall squarely under.
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Maybe they can finally get a real job?
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You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.
That's fucking insane. I can only imagine how scary it is for those who make YouTube their full-time job.
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Maybe they can finally get a real job?
Did they hurt your feel feels? Should they have taken it easy on those multi million dollar companies shitty business practices? Don't worry corpo-chan, those companies totally see you and plan an rewarding your loyalty. Lol
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Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about "in general"?
Why is this being downvoted? I'm genuinely asking questions
.Why is this being downvoted?
You angered the tech jesus fanbois
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Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.
