Our Channel Could Be Deleted - Gamers Nexus
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It's clickbait.
It's not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted. They could very easily make another 2 or cause a lot more issues leading to the deletion of his account. An considering they don't want to talk to him at all, and even making this video will likely really piss them off, it absolutely does lead to the possibility that he has his account deleted
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Yea, revenue certainly wouldn't be the same. As in, there would be no revenue.
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this is speculation, but it's possible that youtube don't like it when large mainstream creators have backup platforms and will start cracking down.
LOTS of big creators post their videos multiple places.
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It'd be dangerous to his revenue stream.
If he reduces views on YT, the algo will recommend him less. His internal sponsors won't pay more for the non YT content so he'll just be gutting his own traffic if it takes off. Assuming he has disks around with all his finished content on it, he could stand it up later if he wanted, but it's not like Peertube can host an unlimited amount of video for free. Someone is paying for those disks and for the transfer of those bits.
Ideally, he'd stand up his own PT and we'd share in watching his stuff and reduce costs Peer style. But he's still going to be out a serious payment stream and the PT network can't just perpetually bare the cost of his storage.
It's like if LMG wanted to host their back catalog, we'd need peer tube hosts with a PB of storage sitting around ready to take his catalog.
Linus has nowhere near a PB worth of content, between all of his channels.
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Surely torrent distributed video can still have sponsorships in it, stick it up as a video on your own website is an option too. Could even go for low res video on website (cheap to host) along with an option of HD torrent.
Theoretically, you could try to rely on patreon to have your audience pay you directly, but without discoverability, they will slowly dwindle and die. As to corporate sponsors, no one is going to pay for ads on torrented shows.
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Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about "in general"?
Why is this being downvoted? I'm genuinely asking questions
.You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.
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Oh, I didn't realize they said they wouldn't sell your information, despite having a privacy policy that explicitly allows for it. My mistake. No one would just lie on the internet like that...
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That is true, but yes Gamers Nexus is (relatively) small, and a million dollars can be gone in no time, if a multi billion dollar company decides you need to be gone.
1 million dollars is far from enough to run just a single somewhat high profile copyright lawsuit.This case is simple, so they will probably manage that pretty easily, there is basically no way Bloomberg can win. It's just a typical harassment tactic that will work against by far the most smaller outlets. But Steve is smart, he knows bullshit when he sees it, and he is not easily scared.
But if Bloomberg gets pissed enough, Gamers Nexus could soon be toast. Just like Gamers Nexus has friends more powerful than themselves, so does Bloomberg.
And 3 frivolous take down notices can appear from various sources in no time. And to YouTube Gamers Nexus is definitely small fry.
Fortunately, New York has anti-SLAPP laws. In fact, they made them stronger when it comes to matters that touch free speech on public issues, which is what reporting something the president said would fall squarely under.
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Maybe they can finally get a real job?
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You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.
That's fucking insane. I can only imagine how scary it is for those who make YouTube their full-time job.
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Maybe they can finally get a real job?
Did they hurt your feel feels? Should they have taken it easy on those multi million dollar companies shitty business practices? Don't worry corpo-chan, those companies totally see you and plan an rewarding your loyalty. Lol
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Right but Bloomberg only did it once, right? Or are they talking about "in general"?
Why is this being downvoted? I'm genuinely asking questions
.Why is this being downvoted?
You angered the tech jesus fanbois
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Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.
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Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
They can, Gardiner Bryant does, and Louis Rossmann uploads to Odyssee. Afaik, there's nothing preventing a creator from doing that aside from time.
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You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown. Then you are deleted and can only hope to beg youtube to reinstate you on twitter.
You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown
So what you're basically saying is that any YouTube channel since the dawn of the DMCA has been permanently in the status of "Our Channel Could Be Deleted". That's... not exactly news is it? What makes the GamersNexus case special?
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It's not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted. They could very easily make another 2 or cause a lot more issues leading to the deletion of his account. An considering they don't want to talk to him at all, and even making this video will likely really piss them off, it absolutely does lead to the possibility that he has his account deleted
It’s not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted
That's not true. It has to be 3 strikes with merit, so rejected or reverted ones don't count, and they expire after 90 days too.
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Issue is such channels need giant amounts of storage for this.
Linus tech Tips showed his multiple upgrades over the years it's quite crazy what they need on storage space.
Storage? Traffic is the real cost
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So, there are options.
You have three challenges:
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You need to be discoverable
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you need to be accessible
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you need to monetize
If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.
Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.
Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.
Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.
Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.
edit: cut myself short
I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.
What about Rumble? GN is on there and directly supportable.
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Did they hurt your feel feels? Should they have taken it easy on those multi million dollar companies shitty business practices? Don't worry corpo-chan, those companies totally see you and plan an rewarding your loyalty. Lol
No I mean, they can do useful trade job stuff, not that capitalist corpo bullshit job.
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It’s not clickbait. The 3 strikes is general, so even if Bloomberg comes back and says it was an accident or unsubstantiated, gn still takes the hit and is that much closer to being deleted
That's not true. It has to be 3 strikes with merit, so rejected or reverted ones don't count, and they expire after 90 days too.
Ah I didn't know that, so I appreciate the correction. In that case itsa little more click baity... But still good to know if you follow his channel. Thank you!
