Sure, it's great for everyone, right up until it's not anymore because they've erased the competition and then jacked up the prices to the point that common people can't afford them, and further driven down workers' wages in the process.

Is no one else familiar with the concept of Predatory Pricing?

Doesn't the EU balance it out with tariffs?

No.

Those cheap BYDs ain't all that cheap here

Yes they are.

Now if EU increased subsidies for domestic EV production, domestic solar panel production, etc... We could really have something great.

Truth there.

Hmm

In October 2024, the EU increased tariffs on Chinese-built EVs, including 17% on those made by BYD and 35.3% for SAIC, on top of its standard car import duty.

Also my friend in the middle east was excited for the BYD Dolphin (I think) for its price and it was... Nearly twice as much here when I looked it up?

BYDs seem cheap because they make budget EVs. Mercedes, Audi, etc, do not.

Well played sir, well played.

The worrying part is that they kinda seem to be implementing good policies for (at least some of) their people.

There's a lot of disturbing stuff, and probably a whole lot more that we don't even know about, but social security, education, healthcare - my impression is that they're going the right way, while the US looks eager to go back to the Dark ages.

Just with STEM degrees, they're producing almost 5x more graduates than the US, and they've surpassed the number of doctorates a long time ago too.

The current world balance won't hold one more generation.

If he could be would try

nah, forget about them

let us have economical cars because we don't need these massive expensive things just to go 5km to get a load of groceries

Trump is definitely headed in China's direction, but MSNBC is still allowed to exist.

How tf does someone with a bajillion dollars look like a pile of wet garbage bags at 54? Aren't they all supposed to be using lotions made from aardvark assholes and incubus foreskins to maintain immortality?

They’re in the phase where people are too scared to resist

Source?

Good thing the Tesla board voted to give Elmo all those billions to make him stay, because for a second there was an actual risk that Tesla could survive as a company without Elmo, but now they kept him and made sure they'll all go down off that cliff.

Over 90% of Chinese agree that “democracy is important” and 80% agree that their country is democratic? Was this survey conducted in Taiwan and signed as “China” complying with “one China policy”?

I’ve never met any Chinese believing that their country is democratic nor that democracy is important. Quite the opposite - they usually say that China grew thanks to the lack of democracy (never calling it a dictatorship though)

Even the CCP propaganda doesn’t claim that China is the democracy but instead they show the negative sides of the democracies so that people don’t even think that it may be a good idea if China was democratic

You laugh, but it's worse than you might think.

This is what I hate. One is owned by a fuck cunt. The other is owned by china. Neither one are actually good options if you are not buying one because of their beliefs

Let us have safe bicycle infrastructure do that we can bike to those stores, how about that? And with that, add mixed constructions in the suburbs so that people have small local stores around.

A bike costs a fraction of a car

Bicycle infrastructure building and maintenance costs a fraction of that for cars

Bicycles don't emit CO2. And for those wise asses saying that the cyclist does, it's a fraction of a fraction of a car because you're not lugging 2 tonnes of stell around to transport you and a bottle of milk.

Cycling infrastructure is much more efficient, you can push a shit tonne more people over the same road if you don't need big ass cars. Yes, even your Mercedes smart car is I ass compared to a bicycle

It creates much much less pollution from tire dust

It's much safer, bicycles kill only a fraction of the people that cars kill all year round

It's healthier, people do exercise not because they went to the gym, but all day every day with their bikes

It cuts the noise pollution

It's cheaper because no taxes, no gas needed, maintenance is a fraction of that of a car.

It's way less wasteful

It lowers aggression. Though it may or may not exist, I've never heard of bicycle road rage

Need more?

Less cars is less parking spaces. Parking spaces get cities barely any taxable income. Instead of these ugly ass concrete wasteland parkitsoaces you can now have restaurants with outside patios which can be taxed. Couple that with the cheaper infrastructure, and that alone should be an obvious reason as to why do this

It's really not that much slower. For typical short trips, bicycles usually only add some 10-20% of required time to your trip.

For any trip over say, 5-10 kilometers, use good public transportation

For those once in a lifetime trips where you actually need a car because you need to transport something huge, use one of those Evo rent-a-car.

In the Netherlands, a huge amount of people don't have a car. Not because they can't (they totally can) but because it's stupid to have one. You can go everywhere by bike, you can jump with your bike in a train when needed to go further, cars are expensive and bad for everyone, why even have one?

No one is denying that the tariffs exist. I'm denying that it "balances out". BYD is still way cheaper than comparable EVs.

BYDs seem cheap because they make budget EVs. Mercedes, Audi, etc, do not.

Mercedes, Audi, etc. are established several decade old prestigious brands that don't need rock bottom prices to gain market share.

BYDs don't "seem" cheap. They are cheap.

Again, asking for any type of source or statistic over anecdotes. Your "observations" go against reputable polling and statistics of people in China.

Was this survey conducted in Taiwan and signed as “China” complying with “one China policy”?

No.... in fact this was a Harvard study that started off with "Given how China is an authoritarian nightmare, how widespread is support for the government?"

https://rajawali.hks.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/07/final_policy_brief_7.6.2020.pdf

Other options exist; you don't have to buy either. Volkswagen Group, Audi, Renault, BMW, Fiat etc all make EVs in Europe. Hyundai & Kia also both make excellent EVs.

Buying a Tesla is a choice these days. Nobody trips and falls into Tesla ownership. And although those cheap Chinese manufacturers look mighty tempting, they're not the only alternative out there.

Literal vampire shit lmao.