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Fuck “lifetime subscriptions”. They’re taking a page from Tesla and I’m sure they’ll require any new owner to pay them separately should you sell the vehicle.

Simply avoid VW and any future brand that pulls this shit.

From the same company that brought you test based emissions upgrades?

Lemmy moment

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Das subscription

I'm actually fine with that. People don't need to go 0-60 in an intersection.

We get it; you drive a VW

ICE vehicles have been the same for a long time, only they lock the horsepower upgrades behind upgrade packages/trims.

Tesla does not and has never had "lifetime subscriptions". They have a single connectivity subscription (they still have basic connectivity for free for all cars that allows you to monitor and control the vehicle,as well as navigation). Any other upgrades are behind 1-time payments (or your choice of either).

The car has to ripen.

Well hyundai has a predefined trim system, they cut cost of manufacturing by only having predefined trim levels that you can't customize.

They might still do this cutting of horsepower but they do it because of batteries.

e.g. the 39kwh and the 64 kwh Kona has the same motor but on the 39kwh it's limited as the battery pack can't deliver enough juice.

But what about 0-10? 0-5? Surely you'd be better off limited to 2 mph/kph for the first 10s after a stop.

For ice cars If you are outside warranty you can just have your ECU remapped and gain much more hp.

I am guessing these remaps will eventually be available for electric motors too

It's due for a head gasket change, not much else. Not worth upgrading to a newer car for my price range and use case.
I don't need a computer I don't own.

Vw doesnt make better EVs than hyundai lol, their range is worse, their charge curve is worse, their software is worse, what they have is better brand still, people are sleeping on Hyundai/Kia even though they offer better equipped cars for cheaper and with better reliability and warranty.

That's completely okay with me. i get to buy these as used cars at extremely cut price.

Go test drive a VW id.3 from 2022, I did, it's a 3 year old car and everything is creaking

I'm not sure about other EVs, but on the BMW iX, a lot of the computer stuff is encrypted now, and has to be signed with BMW's private key (i.e. they've actually implemented encryption correctly). Apps like Bimmercode don't work on it.

VW was never comparable to Toyota. The top has always been the Japanese brands, sometimes with caveats about certain transmissions (e.g. Mazda and Mitsubishi CVTs).

German cars are fine, but parts are generally hard to get or are expensive. Many shops won't touch them, so you need to find a European imports shop.

Here's some data from 2024, VW is fourth last, ahead of Land Rover, Audi, and Chrystler. Somehow they're behind Luncoln...

Hyundai and Kia aren't at the top, but they're reasonably good and their price and warranty make up for the issues they have.

Here's the image:

And I'm sure VW is a lot cheaper in Europe. My uncle bought an Audi when he lived in Germany because it made sense there, and now he drives a Japanese car because Audis don't make sense in the US.

If you buy German, you need to be ready to spend a lot on maintenance and repairs here in the US.

That schematic is basically worthless, first it's "per car", with no mention of average age or mileage.
Mercedes is no doubt among the absolute most reliable cars you can get, most Taxi drivers here use Mercedes for that reason.
But Mercedes also on average drive longer than most other cars, because people who drive a lot tend to prefer Mercedes more.
VW only ranking a couple places above Chrysler is laughable. There is no way that can be right.
Also Audi ranking below VW is ridiculous. Audi is to VW somewhat what Lexus is to Toyota.
Something is definitely off with that chart.

But I do not deny that Hyundai may have improved enough to be as good or maybe even better than VW, What I questioned was how they could have that reputation already few years after they clearly sucked on quality. Being reasonably good now, is exactly as expected though. Because when they were bad over a decade ago, they were so bad there are probably very few left on the roads. It was not just something that needed to be fixed bad, it was very much also end of life for the vehicle bad.

I skimmed the article to find the methodology behind the numbers, but couldn't find it.

The study, now in its 35th year,

That indicates my previous point, they don't account for age, it's easy to stay "average" if your cars are scrapped after a few years. It also explains the poor position of Mercedes.
Here for instance Volvo has a longer life span on average than Toyota. Toyota are good cars, but they are generally not built to last as long as Audi or Mercedes.
I bet you don't see as many 30+ year old Toyota as you do Mercedes.