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The U.S. is interested in acquiring machine-learning technology to carry out AI-generated propaganda campaigns overseas

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    "overseas"

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    We just have to accept that USA under Republicans is a hostile country, and try to take precautions.

  • Absolutely, they already do in USA, but the rest of the world is more complex with a multitude of different local conditions to exploit, and requires way more work and sophisticated methodology to work, so AI would be an even bigger help for making US propaganda for foreign countries.

    If they were planning on "attacking" Russia that has been extremely hostile themselves, I wouldn't have a problem. But Trump is looking to attack traditional allies with propaganda and is making them enemies!! That's what happened to Tesla when Musk supported AfD, and now Tesla sales are plummeting in all of EU, more than anywhere else! Except Norway that for some reason is mostly unaffected, and continue to happily buy Tesla Swasticars?

    Most of Europe already no longer consider USA a reliable ally! And Trump continues to make it worse. Handing global dominance to the Chinese on a silver platter.

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    Surprised this isn't already a thing. Any mainstream social network is very very soon going to be completely useless for political discourse.

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    A bit late to the party.

  • Absolutely, they already do in USA, but the rest of the world is more complex with a multitude of different local conditions to exploit, and requires way more work and sophisticated methodology to work, so AI would be an even bigger help for making US propaganda for foreign countries.

    If they were planning on "attacking" Russia that has been extremely hostile themselves, I wouldn't have a problem. But Trump is looking to attack traditional allies with propaganda and is making them enemies!! That's what happened to Tesla when Musk supported AfD, and now Tesla sales are plummeting in all of EU, more than anywhere else! Except Norway that for some reason is mostly unaffected, and continue to happily buy Tesla Swasticars?

    Most of Europe already no longer consider USA a reliable ally! And Trump continues to make it worse. Handing global dominance to the Chinese on a silver platter.

    I wonder if most of europe believes they could successfully fight a war against Russia, USA, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria... etc. I know Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship, so I wonder what they imagine the result would be in conflict against the new axis of evil.

  • I wonder if most of europe believes they could successfully fight a war against Russia, USA, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria... etc. I know Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship, so I wonder what they imagine the result would be in conflict against the new axis of evil.

    It is not allies that are alienating USA, it's the other way around. Apparently USA believe they don't need allies, because they are acting hostile against everybody, even their closest allies, while being friendly to Russia!!
    Neither USA or EU stand a chance against China alone, we need to cooperate, but USA is not cooperating they are being confrontational and undermining EU and just about every other ally even Canada which for decades has been the closest ally to USA, and helped USA every single time USA called for it. So has Denmark, yet USA threaten to take Greenland!!

  • We just have to accept that USA under Republicans is a hostile country, and try to take precautions.

    I really resent the implication that democrats are any different in this respect.

  • I really resent the implication that democrats are any different in this respect.

    They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.

    Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.

  • It is not allies that are alienating USA, it's the other way around. Apparently USA believe they don't need allies, because they are acting hostile against everybody, even their closest allies, while being friendly to Russia!!
    Neither USA or EU stand a chance against China alone, we need to cooperate, but USA is not cooperating they are being confrontational and undermining EU and just about every other ally even Canada which for decades has been the closest ally to USA, and helped USA every single time USA called for it. So has Denmark, yet USA threaten to take Greenland!!

    First of all, I hate what's happened to the US, but with that said...

    There was a good decade or so where Russia was running a pretty obvious disinfo campaign against US citizens while literally setting up a Manchurian candidate in Donald trump. We already know to some extent that Europe had intel on the situation and really didn't do jack shit to try and prevent what has turned into Russian backed dictatorship.

    So I disagree with you on the subject of alienation. I would argue that the EU set itself up to be alienated through its inaction.

    On the subject of allies, I don't think there is a single person in the US that really believes it doesn't need allies. The US has just traded its western allies for eastern ones. Trump has been cozying up to other dictators around the world since his first term. These days he's very friendly with Putin.

    So again, I disagree with you.

    And I find it pretty fucking hilarious that you're talking about the US cooperating with the EU when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what's happened to it. If there is war between these nations, there is almost no way the US will be allied with the EU. The US is a dictatorship and it will ally itself with other dictatorships.

  • First of all, I hate what's happened to the US, but with that said...

    There was a good decade or so where Russia was running a pretty obvious disinfo campaign against US citizens while literally setting up a Manchurian candidate in Donald trump. We already know to some extent that Europe had intel on the situation and really didn't do jack shit to try and prevent what has turned into Russian backed dictatorship.

    So I disagree with you on the subject of alienation. I would argue that the EU set itself up to be alienated through its inaction.

    On the subject of allies, I don't think there is a single person in the US that really believes it doesn't need allies. The US has just traded its western allies for eastern ones. Trump has been cozying up to other dictators around the world since his first term. These days he's very friendly with Putin.

    So again, I disagree with you.

    And I find it pretty fucking hilarious that you're talking about the US cooperating with the EU when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what's happened to it. If there is war between these nations, there is almost no way the US will be allied with the EU. The US is a dictatorship and it will ally itself with other dictatorships.

    when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what’s happened to it.

    Oh boy the ignorance of that statement is so immense I don't even know where to begin.
    First of all the cooperation of 28 countries to prevent war among themselves is far from not doing jack shit. Secondly EU has worked hard to avoid war through cooperation, but not as much militarily to end them. But still most European countries have been at the side of USA when they asked for it.

    I'm sorry, your narrow ignorant perspective is simply not a level I really care to debate at.

  • when the EU has done fuck all to help prevent what’s happened to it.

    Oh boy the ignorance of that statement is so immense I don't even know where to begin.
    First of all the cooperation of 28 countries to prevent war among themselves is far from not doing jack shit. Secondly EU has worked hard to avoid war through cooperation, but not as much militarily to end them. But still most European countries have been at the side of USA when they asked for it.

    I'm sorry, your narrow ignorant perspective is simply not a level I really care to debate at.

    WHAT FUCKING COOPERATION!?

    I'm the ignorant one??? what the fuck did the EU do to help the US with obvious Russian interference in their politics? If you're truly not ignorant, like you say you aren't, then you could see what was happening. With Russia literally installing a russian asset into the US presidency. What the fuck did the EU do to prevent that?? Fucking nothing.

    And this idea that the US was the isolationist one in this situation, when the EU literally just watched as Putin Installed a dictator of his choosing, while sitting on their metaphorical hands, is completely hypocritical.

  • It is not allies that are alienating USA, it's the other way around. Apparently USA believe they don't need allies, because they are acting hostile against everybody, even their closest allies, while being friendly to Russia!!
    Neither USA or EU stand a chance against China alone, we need to cooperate, but USA is not cooperating they are being confrontational and undermining EU and just about every other ally even Canada which for decades has been the closest ally to USA, and helped USA every single time USA called for it. So has Denmark, yet USA threaten to take Greenland!!

    Stop grouping the American people in with the President, most of us didn't vote for him.

    Edit: The government is doing this, not us. The fucker rigged an election and Russian bots have given the deceptive impression that it's a larger percentage of people that support the president.

    If you really think 40% of us voted for this shit, you're dumb enough to fall for Russian propaganda.

  • WHAT FUCKING COOPERATION!?

    I'm the ignorant one??? what the fuck did the EU do to help the US with obvious Russian interference in their politics? If you're truly not ignorant, like you say you aren't, then you could see what was happening. With Russia literally installing a russian asset into the US presidency. What the fuck did the EU do to prevent that?? Fucking nothing.

    And this idea that the US was the isolationist one in this situation, when the EU literally just watched as Putin Installed a dictator of his choosing, while sitting on their metaphorical hands, is completely hypocritical.

    How do you imagine it's the EU responsibility to protect USA against Russian interference? And should have special knowledge about it to protect USA that wasn't supplied? That simply doesn't make any sense at all.
    USA is supposed to be the "intelligence" superpower, having a huge spy network with facilities spread out among allies, and I know for a fact my own country has helped USA a lot on intelligence. and is a 7 eyes member. We were also the ones warning about nuclear weapons being on the way to Cuba back in the 60's. And we have allowed US military on Greenland.

    Why would we know more about Russian interference than USA themselves? But apart from that the Steele Dossier was from UK, and it clearly indicated Trump is a Russian asset, but the Americans have ignored ALL proof that Trump is obviously compromised, and elected him not just once but twice.

    For instance I know one who was in the Danish marine, and they had top secret American spy equipment on board, that was kept secret also from Denmark, with no knowledge about what the equipment was, and what intelligence was gathered. Still that was allowed because USA was considered an ally.

    One more insane comment like the 2 before and I block you.

  • How do you imagine it's the EU responsibility to protect USA against Russian interference? And should have special knowledge about it to protect USA that wasn't supplied? That simply doesn't make any sense at all.
    USA is supposed to be the "intelligence" superpower, having a huge spy network with facilities spread out among allies, and I know for a fact my own country has helped USA a lot on intelligence. and is a 7 eyes member. We were also the ones warning about nuclear weapons being on the way to Cuba back in the 60's. And we have allowed US military on Greenland.

    Why would we know more about Russian interference than USA themselves? But apart from that the Steele Dossier was from UK, and it clearly indicated Trump is a Russian asset, but the Americans have ignored ALL proof that Trump is obviously compromised, and elected him not just once but twice.

    For instance I know one who was in the Danish marine, and they had top secret American spy equipment on board, that was kept secret also from Denmark, with no knowledge about what the equipment was, and what intelligence was gathered. Still that was allowed because USA was considered an ally.

    One more insane comment like the 2 before and I block you.

    Apparently you never fucking heard of the cold war and all the shit the US did to protect Europe during it. Maybe you should open a fucking book and fuck off.

  • Apparently you never fucking heard of the cold war and all the shit the US did to protect Europe during it. Maybe you should open a fucking book and fuck off.

    I just gave you an example of immensely important intelligence that was given to USA from Denmark during the cold war. And you ask if I ever heard about it!
    You are insane, I have hereby blocked you. Seek help.

  • I wonder if most of europe believes they could successfully fight a war against Russia, USA, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria... etc. I know Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship, so I wonder what they imagine the result would be in conflict against the new axis of evil.

    What the actual fuck is "Europe doesn't/didn't want to help the US avoid their current fascist dictatorship" supposed to mean ?

    What exactly do you think European countries should have done to stop Mango Mussolini being elected ?

    Send in German troops to the red states to stand next to the ballot boxes and turn away MAGA voters ?

    Send Keir Starmer to hand out leaflets for Harris at the Walmart in ButteFuck Wyoming ?

    You dumb fucks voted for him, we can't fix that for you. We certainly can't send military in - the US has spent 50 years persuading and forcing the EU to be militarily weak (and 10 years bitching about the consequences of their own diplomatic efforts)

    Piss off with this idiocy.

  • Stop grouping the American people in with the President, most of us didn't vote for him.

    Edit: The government is doing this, not us. The fucker rigged an election and Russian bots have given the deceptive impression that it's a larger percentage of people that support the president.

    If you really think 40% of us voted for this shit, you're dumb enough to fall for Russian propaganda.

    Don't deflect. Fix.

  • They absolutely are, they are still pandering to wall street, but they are not fascist they believe in democracy, and they don't undermine allies, they don't plan to take health care away from Americans, and on average they are not nearly as corrupt as the Republicans.

    Claiming there is no difference is decidedly moronic and harmful to progress in USA, and a major part of the problems USA are in. USA now has a decidedly authoritarian government, democrats would never have been nearly as bad.

    Ok but when did I ever say that they are equally bad or anything of the like? I said very specifically “the democrats are not any better in this respect”.

    In this respect.

    Once more:
    In this respect.

    Reading comprehension.

    Also partisanship of any kind is disgusting. Thats the real problem in American politics, the abhorrent tribalism fed by the two party system. No progress will happen while you continue to feed this system because both sides are not willing to solve the underlying root issues. Both just want to put bandaids on problems and continue to preserve their power. If the democrats know they will always have your vote no matter what, they have no reason to fix any issues. Which is why for the past few decades they have solved jack shit. So vote democrat but just like MAGA isn’t afraid to vote out their so called RINOs you should not be afraid to put a boot in the ass of democrats that only serve corporate interests.