Apple to Australians: You’re Too Stupid to Choose Your Own Apps
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Apple to
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schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 13:05 zuletzt editiert vonTheir reasons for not opening the App Store aren’t even good logical reasons like it would make the platform unsafe but then they claim the Mac is a safe platform. That’s what makes it so insulting.
I’d be less frustrated with them if they were just honest and said it’s about the money.
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As an Australian, my government can go for it. None of the tech companies have appreciated the Australian government's attempts to regulate them (e.g. trying to make Google and Meta pay for using our journalism).
That said, we have had idiots in power from time to time that definitely have worked against us, usually arguing the "security over privacy" nonsense (metadata collection laws, encryption backdoor legislation, etc.).
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 13:49 zuletzt editiert vonHappy cake day!
I'd be happy for the Australian government to take them to task over this one. But I'm afraid you've fallen for Murdoch propaganda with the journalism thing.
They weren't "using our journalism". They provide a direct benefit to the news organisations. It's a mostly symbiotic relationship, with people going to Google and Facebook because it's a good way to find news that interests them, and news organisations being funnelled traffic directly to them for free. But honestly, if money should be flowing in any direction, it's to Google and Meta. The financial benefit for news organisations of the existing relationship is far greater for news organisations than it is for Google and Meta. People would still be Googling things and sharing on Facebook even if news didn't make up part of that.
Jeff Jarvis is a great thinker and communicator in this space, and he moderates a great discussion on the topic here . About 34 minutes into the video they hear from a QUT professor who is pretty scathing towards the NMBC.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 14:25 zuletzt editiert von
Unpopular opinion, but if I wanted multiple app stores (and all the associated benefits and risks) then I would have opted for an Android.
The walled garden approach works for me, and I don’t want to be inconvenienced and my data put at risk because a particular, necessary app is only available through a 3rd party platform.
Now, Apple being forced to reduce the % of app sales down from 30% to a more reasonable number I am all for.
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Except breaking end-to-end encrypted messaging. That’s the one sore spot.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:06 zuletzt editiert vonand also introducing hardware backdoors, courtesy of Going Dark
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:09 zuletzt editiert von
Apple "opinion" -> discarded.
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Apple "opinion" -> discarded.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:21 zuletzt editiert vonIt's the "Apple Way"
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Unpopular opinion, but if I wanted multiple app stores (and all the associated benefits and risks) then I would have opted for an Android.
The walled garden approach works for me, and I don’t want to be inconvenienced and my data put at risk because a particular, necessary app is only available through a 3rd party platform.
Now, Apple being forced to reduce the % of app sales down from 30% to a more reasonable number I am all for.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:24 zuletzt editiert vonAs much as I dig at Apple, this is a fair observation. However I will say that I have Android and have never actually used a 3rd party app store or felt the need to.
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Their reasons for not opening the App Store aren’t even good logical reasons like it would make the platform unsafe but then they claim the Mac is a safe platform. That’s what makes it so insulting.
I’d be less frustrated with them if they were just honest and said it’s about the money.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:25 zuletzt editiert vonMac is only a safe platform due to obscurity.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:35 zuletzt editiert von
Apple has always said this about their users. Too stupid to allow choices outside of a few curated options.
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It's the "Apple Way"
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:45 zuletzt editiert vonI choose the highway.
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I want to hard agree with Apple that people are, in fact, too stupid to choose their own apps, but not following Apple's greedy logic.
Look at the top apps and sites people use. The tech billionaires. It's stupid as hell
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 17:54 zuletzt editiert von
If you pay for a device, you should be able to do whatever you want with it. Apple having so much control over it means that you don't fully own it.
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I want to hard agree with Apple that people are, in fact, too stupid to choose their own apps, but not following Apple's greedy logic.
Look at the top apps and sites people use. The tech billionaires. It's stupid as hell
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:14 zuletzt editiert vonSame. I agree that people are too stupid to know what apps they should use. But that also includes those using some of apples closed down, limited apps and features haha
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Mac is only a safe platform due to obscurity.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:29 zuletzt editiert vonTo be fair that's not really true. Gatekeeper is deeply integrated into the OS and is extremely strict.
As opposed to windows, macOS will effectively refuse to run any software that is not signed and notarized by Apple themselves.
I'm not a fan of this behaviour but that's the way it is.
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Unpopular opinion, but if I wanted multiple app stores (and all the associated benefits and risks) then I would have opted for an Android.
The walled garden approach works for me, and I don’t want to be inconvenienced and my data put at risk because a particular, necessary app is only available through a 3rd party platform.
Now, Apple being forced to reduce the % of app sales down from 30% to a more reasonable number I am all for.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:31 zuletzt editiert vonIf Apple cashes in less than 30% next iPhone will be like:
Sorry, we can’t include a box OR wire for
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As much as I dig at Apple, this is a fair observation. However I will say that I have Android and have never actually used a 3rd party app store or felt the need to.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:31 zuletzt editiert vonI use F-droid to get my open source apps. Much more trustworthy than Google play. It's my first stop for anything I'm looking for.
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Except breaking end-to-end encrypted messaging. That’s the one sore spot.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:50 zuletzt editiert vonThe EU like any large government is filled with people of varying quality. Some of them are absolutely amazing at their jobs and some of them can barely operate at light switches.
Normally whenever some dumb tech related regulation comes in you usually find it's being pushed by the idiots. You can usually tell by reading the text of the legislation and by the end of it you will have come up with about 300 problems.
A good example of this is reading the Tracking Cookies legislation (bad) and the GDPR legislation (good), the difference in the size of the text of the bill is visually apparent.
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To be fair that's not really true. Gatekeeper is deeply integrated into the OS and is extremely strict.
As opposed to windows, macOS will effectively refuse to run any software that is not signed and notarized by Apple themselves.
I'm not a fan of this behaviour but that's the way it is.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:53 zuletzt editiert vonAs opposed to windows, macOS will effectively refuse to run any software that is not signed and notarized by Apple themselves.
You can put Windows in strict mode but it makes the computer virtually unusable. The other thing been is it there are techniques that attackers can use to bypass these checks thus making the signatures irrelevant anyway.
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To be fair that's not really true. Gatekeeper is deeply integrated into the OS and is extremely strict.
As opposed to windows, macOS will effectively refuse to run any software that is not signed and notarized by Apple themselves.
I'm not a fan of this behaviour but that's the way it is.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 19:41 zuletzt editiert von defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.comYou can also use an immutable Linux distro (SteamOS being the most popular) and install software with flatpak, which is sandboxed using bubblewrap.
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As a general rule, if a corpo is against something the EU does, it means your government should do it too because it's a good thing.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 21:29 zuletzt editiert vonYeah, but I still feel like the majority of people are stupid. That's kind of how apple got such a huge market share to begin with. People just happily locked themselves in to a closed garden with shit for options.
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