what's a VPN? what's a VPN app? how do I log in? what the fuck does a tunnel mean?

kids somehow figured these out. they'll be able to figure out their selfhosted VPN too. at least more of them might find an interest in tech instead of consuming on brainrot platforms.

sunbeam didn't describe it very clearly but it can be described in a way that its just following instructions without even having to understand it. like something like this: "register here. click this to get a free cloud server. log in to the server like this. paste this command and hit enter. install this app on your phone. tap import and scan. point your phone to the qr code on the screen."

Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.

Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.

Are they going to ban VMs?

The same teenagers that don't even use computers with physical keyboards?

I'd wager less than 1% of the minors affected by this will learn how to proxy through a VPS.

What a VM? What's a server OS? How do I log in? What the fuck does sudo apt mean? What is docker? Now I'm editing files? A peer? What's wireguard?

So many of you are disconnected from regular people because you're chronically online.

The same teenagers that don't even use computers with physical keyboards?

I'd wager less than 1% of the minors affected by this will learn how to proxy through a VPS.

You can't block porn completely without blocking VPNs. If you connect to a VPN that's all they can see.

This makes it sound like VPNs can ONLY access porn. lol

Stop fucking but make children.

The same teenagers that don't even use computers with physical keyboards?

I'd wager less than 1% of the minors affected by this will learn how to proxy through a VPS.

Hmmmmm, let me play devils advocate and say that kids should have access to porn.

If I had to guess, they don't care at all about porn and are using this as a pretext to censor sites that talk about LGBTQIA+ people.

And also to block access to any sex ed content that talks about how to protect yourself from predators.

Religious fundamentalists famously love being the only source of sexual "education".

This has nothing to do with porn or protecting children. It's a backdoor way to attach names and faces to VPN usage so movie and music studios can sue specific people for torrenting. They failed in bringing lawsuits previously because they couldn't pin point the piracy to specific individuals. I would bet money that the ministers leading this charge have ties to groups in the movie and music industry. The UK will be the testbed before the full rollout in the EU and then worldwide.

So all this does is create a black market for tech. People with the knowledge of how to set up this technology will provide it as a service for those who don't.

It's the same as trying to outright ban drugs. Those who can provide for those who cannot (for a fee).

If I had to guess, I'd say the government pushback against porn is a result of members of the ruling class catching their offspring with porn.

Ok one question: Why do we have to protect children from porn if they've already gotten exposed to it?

If you want to actually play devil's advocate, you gotta give an argument. Otherwise, you're just being contrarian.