Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
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You can't block porn completely without blocking VPNs. If you connect to a VPN that's all they can see. They can not see what you use the VPN for.
You can't block VPNs without blocking the entire internet. You can block known VPN services, but you can't prevent people from hosting their own.
Some known VPN protocols could be blocked, using introspection tools. However, this would just render corporate VPNs useless. VPN traffic is just bytes, and so is WebSockets. Good luck figuring out whether my HTTPS traffic is legitimate internet traffic, or masked VPN traffic.
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Are you serious? It's real and lead by the only two sane people left in British politics.
Personally I do have to agree though, the website itself looks kinda scuffed.
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Yup, and that's how the US got the Mafia. We banned alcohol, but people wanted to drink, so the Mafia made that happen.
All a ban does is hurt law abiding citizens and businesses.
This is a fairly revisionist history version of the mafia, they were here for decades before prohibition. One might say that they profited greatly from prohibition, but to suggest they began with it is incredibly incorrect. I hate to be the actually guy but I find organized crime fascinating and I can’t let this one go
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You can't block VPNs without blocking the entire internet. You can block known VPN services, but you can't prevent people from hosting their own.
Some known VPN protocols could be blocked, using introspection tools. However, this would just render corporate VPNs useless. VPN traffic is just bytes, and so is WebSockets. Good luck figuring out whether my HTTPS traffic is legitimate internet traffic, or masked VPN traffic.
Good news, we closed that pesky loophole by banning encryption without backdoors.
If they can't decode it, you better be ready to explain exactly what those bytes were!
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You ban something, and people will always find a way around it. Always.
Dead drop USBs for file sharing?
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As someone who just read the Wikipedia article on Usenet and doesn't know anything else about it:
Would this be pretty much the equivalent of the internet before search engines? Because if so I'm really intriguedNever mind search engines, Usenet was being used before people were using web browsers.
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You joke but people who live porn still watch porn.
Market research?
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You can't block porn completely without blocking VPNs. If you connect to a VPN that's all they can see. They can not see what you use the VPN for.
Depends on the VPN
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VPN, Tor (and similar, like I2P), every imaginable P2P network, proxies, all non-http protocols (smtp, ftp, nntp, xmpp and other instant messengers and so on) can all transfer any kind of data, porn included. And a ton of other things. Heck, I'm quite sure there's a minecraft mod where you can assemble JPG-images out of the blocks and view them that way. And then you can use stuff like uuencode where you can use anything that can move plain text to transfer binary data.
There's no way to block all of that unless you shut the whole internet down. And even then you can still trade good old playboy-magazines with your friends. VPN in itself has very little to do with the actual problem, beyond that someone apparently noticed that their current "save-the-children" iteration had pretty large holes in it.
Ban paper.
Kids could draw boobies on it.
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
Stop fucking but make children.
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Dame Rachel de Souza told BBC Newsnight it was "absolutely a loophole that needs closing" and called for age verification on VPNs.
Saw that coming. Can’t have the populace living their lives without constant, repressive government scrutiny.
But it’s for the kids what kind of psychopath could be against that!!!!???
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
Are they going to ban VMs?
They will keep banning things until they feel they have absolute control over the internet.
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This is a fairly revisionist history version of the mafia, they were here for decades before prohibition. One might say that they profited greatly from prohibition, but to suggest they began with it is incredibly incorrect. I hate to be the actually guy but I find organized crime fascinating and I can’t let this one go
Eh, not revisionist, just overly simplified. Prohibition massively increased their power and relevance.
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Stop children using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told
The children's commissioner for England tells the BBC virtual private networks are a "loophole that needs closing.
(www.bbc.com)
I think the best way to solve this is to not have kids in the first place.
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
They'll ban encrypted Internet traffic that they don't have a backdoor to
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS.
Log in with provided credentials.
sudo apt install docker
Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container.
Create a peer.
Take a picture of the provided QR code.
Connect to the server via a wireguard app.
Done.Are they going to ban VMs?
Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Of course they don't. Most of them type with their index fingers and don't even understand what a VPN is.
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Good news, we closed that pesky loophole by banning encryption without backdoors.
If they can't decode it, you better be ready to explain exactly what those bytes were!
Even if they go that route, and frankly I think they would get lynched before we got to that point, they can't monitor every single connection. That just way too much traffic.
That's why China has a firewall, because that's the best option they can come up with because monitoring every Chinese persons data is an impossible task. Their only option would be to go North Korea route, and just close the internet but that would basically end their economy.
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I think the best way to solve this is to not have kids in the first place.
And deprive capital of all that cheap labor? Have you no heart sir/madam?
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Why are the kids technologically illiterate and undersexed until it comes to matters of government control? I'm not usually into tin foil hats, but this doesn't feel like the kids are the primary concern here.
I don't think it's a conspiracy theory if everybody already knows it.
What you said there, that was just a fact.
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Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.
Of course they don't. Most of them type with their index fingers and don't even understand what a VPN is.
Exactly this. There's maybe 8 politicians in the whole world that understand what a VPN is. They're told by a lobbyist and donor that it's a thing that is bad, now they're out to figure out how to make it go away.