Yeah, never forget how the people in power routinely gave Epstein a pass because they were participating in raping kids.

All this "for the children" is performative bullshit to take more power away from the average person.

Yes plan law makers needs to have a clue on what they are making laws about. Teenagers looking for porn are going to learn.

I've thought about this at length, and the conclusion I came to is that violence about self-sufficiency, while sex is about cooperation. With violence, you take matters into your own hands and you're in control regardless of what others feel. With sex, it's the exact opposite. You're at their mercy and they have power over you.

It makes sense in our hostile culture to teach kids about self-sufficiency and taking power for themselves. If they give that power up to others, then it opens them up to manipulation and exploitation.

I'm not making a judgement call on what's right or wrong, only what is.

The same teenagers that don't even use computers with physical keyboards?

I'd wager less than 1% of the minors affected by this will learn how to proxy through a VPS.

I know! Nothing about all this is new.

The only new thing is that the UK government is about to learn about those things.

If I had to guess, they don't care at all about porn and are using this as a pretext to censor sites that talk about LGBTQIA+ people.

And also to block access to any sex ed content that talks about how to protect yourself from predators.

Actually it was pushed by some AI corp, to sell AI for verification purposes, alongside other bad faith actors.

what's a VPN? what's a VPN app? how do I log in? what the fuck does a tunnel mean?

kids somehow figured these out. they'll be able to figure out their selfhosted VPN too. at least more of them might find an interest in tech instead of consuming on brainrot platforms.

sunbeam didn't describe it very clearly but it can be described in a way that its just following instructions without even having to understand it. like something like this: "register here. click this to get a free cloud server. log in to the server like this. paste this command and hit enter. install this app on your phone. tap import and scan. point your phone to the qr code on the screen."

It's a lot easier to get a VPN working than doing it yourself on a VPS.

setting up vps requires money which ideally children do not have access to (not even crypto)

I just deployed a few VM on my phone, not even a tablet. It's not that hard nowadays with websites being designed primarily for smartphone users

If kids have learned to run their own Minecraft private servers, hosting a VPN should be child's play... Pun maybe intended.

Hmmmmm, let me play devils advocate and say that kids should have access to porn.

They just got a motivation.

They can also access Excel spreadsheets from what I've heard. Hopefully the children aren't aware of the fact.

Religious fundamentalists famously love being the only source of sexual "education".

So all this does is create a black market for tech. People with the knowledge of how to set up this technology will provide it as a service for those who don't.

It's the same as trying to outright ban drugs. Those who can provide for those who cannot (for a fee).

This has nothing to do with porn or protecting children. It's a backdoor way to attach names and faces to VPN usage so movie and music studios can sue specific people for torrenting. They failed in bringing lawsuits previously because they couldn't pin point the piracy to specific individuals. I would bet money that the ministers leading this charge have ties to groups in the movie and music industry. The UK will be the testbed before the full rollout in the EU and then worldwide.

If you want to actually play devil's advocate, you gotta give an argument. Otherwise, you're just being contrarian.

Ok one question: Why do we have to protect children from porn if they've already gotten exposed to it?