Tesla In 'Self-Drive Mode' Hit By Train After Turning Onto Train Tracks
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 22:23 zuletzt editiert von
Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I'm sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as "hitting the brake" or "steering the other way" or "flipping the right stalk up". Rocket science, I know.
Driver's fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
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They didn't make a turn into a crossing. It turned onto the tracks.
Just to be clear for others, it did so at a crossing. That's still obviously not what it should have done and it's no defence of the self-driving feature, but I read your comment as suggesting it had found its way onto train tracks by some other route.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 22:27 zuletzt editiert vonThanks. I could have clarified better myself. I meant "didn't turn from a rail-parallel road onto a crossing to be met by a train it couldn't reasonably detect due to bad road design"
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Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't it trivial to take it out of their bullshit dangerous "FSD" mode and take control? How does a car go approximately 40-50 feet down the tracks without the driver noticing and stopping it?
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 22:28 zuletzt editiert vonOn some railroad crossings you might only need to go off the crossing to get stuck in the tracks and unable to back out. Trying to get out is another 30-40 feet.
Being caught off guard when the car isn't supposed to do that is how to get stuck in the first place. Yeah, terrible driver trusting shit technology.
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schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 23:31 zuletzt editiert von
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 23:38 zuletzt editiert von
Honey, are those train tracks? .... Yes looks like we'll turn left on to the tracks for 1/2 a mile. Its a detour.
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How so? The human in the car is always ultimately responsible when using level 3 driver assists. Tesla does not have level 4/5 self-driving and therefore doesn’t have to assume any liability.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 23:59 zuletzt editiert vonIf you are monkeying with the car right before it crashes... wouldn't that raise suspicion?
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It's been well documented. It lets them say in their statistics that the owner was in control of the car during the crash
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 23:59 zuletzt editiert vonThat's my whole point
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Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I'm sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as "hitting the brake" or "steering the other way" or "flipping the right stalk up". Rocket science, I know.
Driver's fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:05 zuletzt editiert vonI'd have bailed out and waited for the insurance check. Then got a different car.
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Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I'm sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as "hitting the brake" or "steering the other way" or "flipping the right stalk up". Rocket science, I know.
Driver's fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
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It simply saw a superior technology and decided to attack.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:07 zuletzt editiert von@Davriellelouna I am sure it was all monitored in real time and a revised algorithm will be included in a future update.
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I'd have bailed out and waited for the insurance check. Then got a different car.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:14 zuletzt editiert vonI wouldn't have had time between pumping iron and getting head, myself.
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Yes.
You hit the brake.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:20 zuletzt editiert vonIdeally you hit the brakes before buyin the tesla.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:29 zuletzt editiert von
Also, the robotaxi has been live for all of a day and there's already footage of it driving on the wrong side of the road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s-h0YXtF0c&t=420s
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Driver failed to control their car and avoid a collision.
FTFY.
I'm sure the car did actually take the action. But there are TONS of unavoidable warnings and reminders to the driver to supervise and take control when FSD goes wrong.
Which you can do by such super-technical means as "hitting the brake" or "steering the other way" or "flipping the right stalk up". Rocket science, I know.
Driver's fault. Bad technology, yes. Worse driver.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 00:53 zuletzt editiert vonI just don't know how they're getting away with calling it 'full self driving' if it's not fully self driving.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 01:38 zuletzt editiert von
You all don't seem to understand, this is just the cost of progress!
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 01:47 zuletzt editiert von
Hope no one was hurt,
regardless whether they're stupid, distracted or whatever!
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 01:52 zuletzt editiert von
I am all in on testing these devices and improving waay before they recommend fully giving into AI
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 01:56 zuletzt editiert von
Where's the video?
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Honey, are those train tracks? .... Yes looks like we'll turn left on to the tracks for 1/2 a mile. Its a detour.
schrieb am 24. Juni 2025, 02:03 zuletzt editiert von nikkidimes@lemmy.worldYeaaaaah, I mean fuck Tesla for a variety of reasons, but right here we're looking at a car that drove itself onto a set of train tracks, continued down the train tracks, and the people inside did...nothing? Like, they grabbed their shit and got out when it got stuck. The car certainly should not have done this, but this isn't really a Tesla problem. It'll definitely be interesting when robotaxis follow suit though.
