Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds meet for the first time.
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That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:15 zuletzt editiert vonThe awful lighting on this photo makes Linus look older than Bill!
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One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:
Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.
Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads
Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.
Talk about talking out of your ass.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:24 zuletzt editiert vonTalking out of your AIss*
Or just great satire, what's even the difference between that and reality these days? -
That is wild they've never met.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:26 zuletzt editiert vonI imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.
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I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:26 zuletzt editiert vonLinus looking healthier than ever, dog. Good for him. Live your best life, baby.
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That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:27 zuletzt editiert von peteyestee@feddit.orgHaha I read that as gayer.
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I imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:35 zuletzt editiert vonSame. At this point I think he probably did it more to indulge those who wanted that to happen than actually wanting or caring about it.
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Talking out of your AIss*
Or just great satire, what's even the difference between that and reality these days?schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:36 zuletzt editiert vonI find comfort in satire because it's way less absurd.
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I find comfort in satire because it's way less absurd.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:41 zuletzt editiert vonThoughts and sprayers to satire!
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I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 22:43 zuletzt editiert vonDave Cutler, the legend of VMS and the NT kernel.
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I like to imagine they were just side-eyeing each other the whole time.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:58 zuletzt editiert vonAnd every movement arises suspicion. One of them jumped when the other reached for his phone in his pocket
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That backdrop makes everyone look even grayer than they are
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:59 zuletzt editiert vonExcept for the guy on the left, who is clearly wearing a wig.
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I had the thrill of a lifetime, hosting dinner for Bill Gates, Linus Torvalds and David Cutler. Linus had never met Bill, and Dave had never met Linus. No major kernel decisions were made, but maybe next dinner
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:37 zuletzt editiert vonBill been eating well
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One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:
Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.
Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads
Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.
Talk about talking out of your ass.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:56 zuletzt editiert von
That HAS to be sarcasm .... right?
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I imagine Linus never seeing a point to such a meeting.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:10 zuletzt editiert vonI'd have expected then meeting by chance at a conference at some point
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Linus looking healthier than ever, dog. Good for him. Live your best life, baby.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:11 zuletzt editiert vonLean, mean, diving machine.
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Bill been eating well
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:17 zuletzt editiert vonTiny head though
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That HAS to be sarcasm .... right?
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:20 zuletzt editiert von -
One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:
Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.
Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads
Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.
Talk about talking out of your ass.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:38 zuletzt editiert von zqps@sh.itjust.worksJust in case that putting processes in quotation marks as though they're some alien concept (unlike AI agents I guess) wasn't enough to convince you how deeply unserious this person is, they threw "azure-orchestrated kernel layers" in there.
I would pay actual money to hear Linus Torvalds react to that elevator pitch.
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Lean, mean, diving machine.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:54 zuletzt editiert vonOh yeah, that's one of his interests, isn't it? He wrote some kind of software for that, if I remember correctly.
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One of the replies to the LinkedIn post:
Dave Cutler (Windows NT) and Linus Torvalds (Linux kernel creator) wouldn’t meet casually; they’re almost certainly plotting a next-gen AI-native operating system (AI OS). With Azure CTO Mark Russinovich in the mix, the effort looks Microsoft-centered and cloud-first.
Key ideas: “Processes” become agents; Command line / GUI replaced by a natural-language interface; Hybrid Windows + Linux kernel layers, orchestrated on Azure for large-scale LLM and agent workloads
Bottom line: expect a Microsoft-led, AI-centric OS that re-imagines traditional operating-system architecture for the LLM era.
Talk about talking out of your ass.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:30 zuletzt editiert vonYes, this is bullshit.
While some sort of a redesign of part of Linux's internals I could imagine.
In terms of kernel ABI stability Linux is often criticized even in comparison to BSDs.
And in general its insides are more messy and "naturally grown", or so I've heard (OpenBSD is the only OS whose internals I've made myself familiar with sufficiently ; also put some effort for FreeBSD).
So my, eh, alternative opinion would be that something is brewing for Linux like what Digital Unix was for BSD Unix. A hybrid cleaned up kernel, maybe support for different ABIs (like what exists in FreeBSD for Linux and older versions of itself, except maybe more ambitious). Maybe even tackling a more open alternative to NT (itself alternative to VMS and David Cutler being the man who did that) while they're at it. NT is not a bad thing. Even Windows is not a bad thing. Maybe Wine isn't enough, or maybe it would be cool to have something possible to make compatible with many Windows device drivers.
At least I hope it's Linux learning to do EEE and not the other way around.
Though with Bill Gates and Dave Cutler this really seems like a meeting of legends and nothing more. They're cool people, but I don't think they want to play global thermonuclear computing war at that age, unlike just global thermonuclear war IRL, this one is more attractive for younger people. Even if it's about some project being born, I'd expect that to be "just for fun" for everyone involved, they deserve that after all.
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