Tough, Tiny, and Totally Repairable: Inside the Framework 12
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I see 80s 90s era cars and trucks running around my town all day every day.
Try again.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:19 zuletzt editiert vonAverages are much better than edge cases in this sort of comparison.
20 years vs 14
EV Batteries Can Easily Outlast A Typical Gas Car’s Lifespan: Study
The average car in America is 14 years old. EV batteries can last longer, according to a new study.
InsideEVs (insideevs.com)
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I just want an electric car that can do exactly this.
Modular components on an option of 3 frames. Reparable to a degree. Bare bones functionality. Physical buttons, no screens. Open source software. Upgrade not the whole car, but components as you go. Literally what video games taught us.
If I had Mark Cuban money, it's the first thing I would do.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:23 zuletzt editiert vonI think that has more to do with safety laws and emission standards than anything else. How can you properly crash test a fully modular car?
I'd love it if cars were more repairable, but modular would be a really tough design problem.
Heck, you NEED a screen in the US on any car due to backup cameras being mandatory. If you need a screen, I can see why companies would just use it for the infotainment system.
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schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:28 zuletzt editiert von seekpie@lemmy.seekpie.nohost.me
Hey, my client doesn't show that your comment contains anything, I think you're missing the exclamation mark before the link.

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Averages are much better than edge cases in this sort of comparison.
20 years vs 14
EV Batteries Can Easily Outlast A Typical Gas Car’s Lifespan: Study
The average car in America is 14 years old. EV batteries can last longer, according to a new study.
InsideEVs (insideevs.com)
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:31 zuletzt editiert von"There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain.
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New board size was dictated by the smaller form factor I believe. Still will be very interesting to see what options come out in time.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:39 zuletzt editiert vonYeah seems like lots of good opportunities for old boards of a smaller form factor with diy projects etc
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Want me to 3d print one for you?
I found a few pre-made designs:
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 15:40 zuletzt editiert vonWhat's the best way to order a print if you dont have a printer yourself? Is there a site you can order from?
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"There are three types of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 17:01 zuletzt editiert von wanderer@lemm.eeYou're right, nothing compares to one man's anecdotal evidence.
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You're right, nothing compares to one man's anecdotal evidence.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 17:41 zuletzt editiert vonMy right? Indeed.
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What's the best way to order a print if you dont have a printer yourself? Is there a site you can order from?
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 17:48 zuletzt editiert von chiliedogg@lemmy.worldThere are services online. I don't use any of them, so I'm not comfortable making recommendations.
That being said, printers are getting cheap and really easy to use, so it may be worth looking into buying one for 200 bucks. Even without knowing how to model, there's a ton of free designs out there.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 17:57 zuletzt editiert von
When AMD???
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specs were too low
what usage was limited by specs?
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:22 zuletzt editiert vonIf all you're doing is texting, browsing the web, and making phone calls obviously specs don't matter, but to suggest that they don't matter at all is weird. After all specs includes the battery.
Obviously anything that needs higher end hardware is going to be adversely limited by the lack of that higher end hardware. It's a bit like asking how the lack of wheels affects a car. Obviously it affects it a lot.
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And a printer too.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:26 zuletzt editiert vonWith printers the thing that tends to go is the software. You wouldn't think that was possible but it happens, somehow they just stop working for no reason at all.
But of course you could always just buy a brother printer and be done with it.
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Hot damn that looks amazing, will get one for my kid.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:31 zuletzt editiert vonI was a kid in high school just around the time that laptops were becoming available to the general public, somehow my parents actually managed to convince the school to buy me one. The one I had you could use to beat people to death, I certainly use mine as a weapon. We need to go back to that, I'm not interested in having an ultra thin laptop, I want a huge chunk of metal and plastic that I can use for self-defense.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:36 zuletzt editiert von
I have been wanting one since these were released. My old Asus laptop from 2016 is still kicking, so I guess I'll wait till it craps the bed.
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Framework + GrapheneOS =
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schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 18:51 zuletzt editiert vonDont they run x86_64?
So you coukd use qubes, if they gave a chip with the hot virtualization features?
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I just want an electric car that can do exactly this.
Modular components on an option of 3 frames. Reparable to a degree. Bare bones functionality. Physical buttons, no screens. Open source software. Upgrade not the whole car, but components as you go. Literally what video games taught us.
If I had Mark Cuban money, it's the first thing I would do.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 19:03 zuletzt editiert vonI have a bike I put together with this mindset and it's pretty awesome. If any component dies I can replace it individually, even if it's not made by the same company. No reason an electric car couldn't have the same benefits except that the average consumer doesn't care about planning ahead
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If all you're doing is texting, browsing the web, and making phone calls obviously specs don't matter, but to suggest that they don't matter at all is weird. After all specs includes the battery.
Obviously anything that needs higher end hardware is going to be adversely limited by the lack of that higher end hardware. It's a bit like asking how the lack of wheels affects a car. Obviously it affects it a lot.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 19:35 zuletzt editiert vonI literally asked, you implied.
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Intriguing, care to say more?
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 19:51 zuletzt editiert vonI would guess he’s thinking money. Design, production line, and legal are all going to be extremely expensive. Bezos is a name and face but if you replace his name with JP Morgan Chase, BNY Mellon , Blackrock, etc is there really that big of a difference. The large financial institutions have done far more for far longer to people all around the world
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I think that has more to do with safety laws and emission standards than anything else. How can you properly crash test a fully modular car?
I'd love it if cars were more repairable, but modular would be a really tough design problem.
Heck, you NEED a screen in the US on any car due to backup cameras being mandatory. If you need a screen, I can see why companies would just use it for the infotainment system.
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 21:38 zuletzt editiert vonYes and no. There's a YT video of some guy fixing anything on any car. The catch is that for components for easy things are getting harder and harder to reach. I always used to change my oil myself because it takes 20 minutes and I know the filter got replaced. Harder and harder to do every car I have. So even basic maintenance I can't do myself anymore.
Modular components could be workable in terms of you pick frame 1, 2, or 3 with batteries. Then you pick wheels/motors packs A, B, or C. Then you pick more and more options. If you own the A and C options, it's a 45 minute swap out with a system that confirms things are plugged in right. Not every configuration would work together. Toyota uses a lot of interchangeable parts between cars. I mean do this with a whole back end or front end. So like 5 swappable zones that work in maybe 15 possible configurations per frame.
Maybe you want a battle wagon. And want to grow out of that to a pickup. Or start with compact car and expand to a compact SUV.
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Edit: Disregard. I have the 13, not the 12.
~~Normal laptop formfactor. You can have a touch screen as an option but it doesn't do the full 360 fold round into a tablet.
I own one and the hinge goes 180.
It's an excellent laptop, I grabbed one when the first AMD board was available and it runs Fedora flawlessly and has windows on an SSD when I need it.~~
schrieb am 19. Juni 2025, 23:25 zuletzt editiert vonWhile this is, as you pointed out, not entirely inaccurate, I appreciate the small writeup, as I would plan to run Fedora or other similar distro on it and like to know it's flawless in this regard.
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