How Do I Prepare My Phone for a Protest?
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Source? EFF says airplane mode is sufficient per the article
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:05 zuletzt editiert vonso you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
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so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:17 zuletzt editiert vonUntil I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
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so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:29 zuletzt editiert vonWhat government funding does the EFF take in?
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What government funding does the EFF take in?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:38 zuletzt editiert vonElectronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) - InfluenceWatch
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Closing the lid typically does sleep or hibernate, both of which can still be active. I've had many windows updates overnight with the lid closed.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:40 zuletzt editiert vonTypical isn't relevant in a corporate controlled image which they push automatic updates to. Whatever "typical" was can be changed with the next update push.
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remind me again, how's that working out in LA?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:40 zuletzt editiert vonMixed results. Implying: blue leadership could be doing better in that area.
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Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:41 zuletzt editiert voncool. you do you then.
I'll keep doing whatever I need to ensure my freedom by not trusting government or corporate guidelines.
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Well also just the brown ones.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:42 zuletzt editiert vonI'm assuming the light/dark filter gets applied before they're ever incarcerated, but yeah, plenty of pre-judgement goes on at all stages of police decision making.
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Don't bring it?!
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 14:57 zuletzt editiert von surph_ninja@lemmy.worldAlso be aware that the Georgia attorney general has declared that not bringing your phone to a protest will be considered criminal intent. They’re now trying to punish people for not having their tracking devices with them.
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Typical isn't relevant in a corporate controlled image which they push automatic updates to. Whatever "typical" was can be changed with the next update push.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 15:02 zuletzt editiert vonSure but it could just do the default thing because it just wasn't changed.
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Your car's GPS is also tracking your movements. If you have a newer car then your phone is only part of the problem.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 15:09 zuletzt editiert vonTo be specific, it's not the GPS receiver, it's the fact that the car may be communicating via cell network or satellite, right?
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Most modern devices track the phone even when it's turned off. If you can't remove the battery, leave it at home.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 15:12 zuletzt editiert vonOh, this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Find_My
You can turn that off, I'm pretty sure.
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Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 15:53 zuletzt editiert vonI tend to agree (and also an EE). Airplane mode isn't a total panacea, though. It just disables the cellular radio. While it also disables the Wifi and Bluetooth, those can always be turned back on, even while Airplane Mode is active. A motivated state actor can absolutely track via Wifi or Bluetooth. (Possibly even NFC, but the range on that is so low that I think it would impossible to do without seeing what is tracking you).
Turning the phone off is the best solution if you want to keep rhe phone on your person. Guaranteed that all possible avenues for tracking is off, and also has the advantage that even if the phone is seized, the latest phone OSes require the passcode before doing anything at all when they first power up. Even the Police are limited in the data they can get off a phone that has just powered up and is asking for the passcode.
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To be specific, it's not the GPS receiver, it's the fact that the car may be communicating via cell network or satellite, right?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 15:56 zuletzt editiert vonRight, but most modern cars have that communication built in, because they use it to update firmware remotely. You can't turn it off even if you wanted to. Many car companies justify it by saying it is needed to give your location to emergency services if you use their alert button.
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Oh, this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Find_My
You can turn that off, I'm pretty sure.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 16:05 zuletzt editiert vonI would not be surprised if it can only be "turned off."
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To be specific, it's not the GPS receiver, it's the fact that the car may be communicating via cell network or satellite, right?
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 16:31 zuletzt editiert vonCorrect. Yeah, if you have a newer car with GPS, it will likely also have built in communications to the car company.
There are benefits to older, "dumber" cars. Besides enjoying knobs and buttons
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Right, but most modern cars have that communication built in, because they use it to update firmware remotely. You can't turn it off even if you wanted to. Many car companies justify it by saying it is needed to give your location to emergency services if you use their alert button.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 16:36 zuletzt editiert vonIdk about other brands but with Mazda you can call and get them to deactivate your car's sim. IIRC in Subarus you can just physically unplug the communication unit.
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Also be aware that the Georgia attorney general has declared that not bringing your phone to a protest will be considered criminal intent. They’re now trying to punish people for not having their tracking devices with them.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 17:15 zuletzt editiert vonThis can probably be argued that places that deny phones, like courts, could be charged with criminal intent against you.
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You underestimate how much of a couch potato I am. Not moving is normal lol.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 17:18 zuletzt editiert vonIf I'm sitting on the couch, the phone is not on me. It's on the table next to me or on a counter somewhere. I don't even always look at it if I get a message. Sometimes I'll wait hours after I get a message to read it.
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They likely have the data to show it didn't move at all. Eg it wasn't on your person.
schrieb am 15. Juni 2025, 20:23 zuletzt editiert von patch@feddit.ukAsk a non-protesting friend or family member to take it with them about their daily routine?
I'm sure my mum would be happy to look after my phone for a day if it meant getting one over on the authorities. And if anyone asks, I'm just a good son who likes to hang out with his mum.
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