How Do I Prepare My Phone for a Protest?
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Jesus Christ, this conversation is scary. I wish y’all good luck that none of these precautions are necessary.
As someone in a blue state where governance is sane, I’m “raw dogging it” (effing offensive slang term but now I’ve used it once in my life and can rest easy) and bringing my kids (teens). M also going to the local demonstration rather than go into the city for a big one - to some extent it’s a numbers game: ICE can’t raid them all and police aren’t legally allowed to help them
…. And hopefully my optimism is well founded
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Edit: huge success! Entirely peaceful. While a few cops drove by, there was no police presence. Thousands of people of all ages lining both sides of main st, and three sides of our town common. Constant honking from supporters driving by. It was very inspirational. I’m proud of my fellow citizens and hope our voice for restoring sanity and democracy is heard.
For those pessimists,a bit more context why I was so optimistic….. a few years back, our mayor and police were participants in a local BLM rally. Also a big part of local outrage against fascism was a city counselor getting assaulted and arrested for videoing an illegal raid on one of his constituents.
I'm happy that you felt safe in a peaceful protest, but keep in mind that stingrays can be operated from airplanes at 10,000 ft. you likely would never hear them at a noisy protest and it would be the size of a grain of rice in the sky.
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If your "blue leaders" are any good, they enforce psych profiles on police recruitment that ensures you don't have a force full of racist authoritarian law in their own hands radicals, at least for the forces they control - feds may be a different story.
remind me again, how's that working out in LA?
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Leave it at home for a protest if you care about being tracked.
Pretty much all cell phones can be tracked even when turned off.
Could you not wrap it in thin foil to make a faraday cage? If done well it should prevent any signals for going in or out.
puts on thin foil hat
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When they've got a cell full of detainees and they're deciding who ICE is going to ship to "advanced processing" who do you think goes to the front of that line? I'm guessing it's the "undocumented," regardless of whatever laws you're focused on.
Well also just the brown ones.
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Don't bring it?!
Go old school and bring cameras instead.
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doesn't have to be powered on.
unless you can remove the battery, it should stay at home.
Source? EFF says airplane mode is sufficient per the article
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Leave it at home for a protest if you care about being tracked.
Pretty much all cell phones can be tracked even when turned off.
Source? EFF says airplane mode is sufficient per the article
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Source? EFF says airplane mode is sufficient per the article
so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
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so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
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so you're going yo trust the government funded org to tell you how to not be tracked by the government?
better yet, you're going to trust the company that actively works with the government under national defense that wants to track you to protect national defense?
no thanks. I'd rather be safe than detained.
What government funding does the EFF take in?
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What government funding does the EFF take in?
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) - InfluenceWatch
Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) is a left-of-center digital rights advocacy organization headquartered in San Francisco, California. EFF activities include policy analysis and education, technology development, activism, and litigation. Much of EFF’s attention focuses on fighting government’s and law enforcement’s interference in individual digital activities through surveillance, censorship, and invasion of privacy. EFF is supported by […]
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Closing the lid typically does sleep or hibernate, both of which can still be active. I've had many windows updates overnight with the lid closed.
Typical isn't relevant in a corporate controlled image which they push automatic updates to. Whatever "typical" was can be changed with the next update push.
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remind me again, how's that working out in LA?
Mixed results. Implying: blue leadership could be doing better in that area.
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Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
cool. you do you then.
I'll keep doing whatever I need to ensure my freedom by not trusting government or corporate guidelines.
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Well also just the brown ones.
I'm assuming the light/dark filter gets applied before they're ever incarcerated, but yeah, plenty of pre-judgement goes on at all stages of police decision making.
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Don't bring it?!
Also be aware that the Georgia attorney general has declared that not bringing your phone to a protest will be considered criminal intent. They’re now trying to punish people for not having their tracking devices with them.
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Typical isn't relevant in a corporate controlled image which they push automatic updates to. Whatever "typical" was can be changed with the next update push.
Sure but it could just do the default thing because it just wasn't changed.
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Your car's GPS is also tracking your movements. If you have a newer car then your phone is only part of the problem.
To be specific, it's not the GPS receiver, it's the fact that the car may be communicating via cell network or satellite, right?
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Most modern devices track the phone even when it's turned off. If you can't remove the battery, leave it at home.
Oh, this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Find_My
You can turn that off, I'm pretty sure.
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Until I see a shred of evidence that airplane mode doesn't disable the radios, yes, I'm going to trust the manufacturers, the EFF, and my background in EE
I tend to agree (and also an EE). Airplane mode isn't a total panacea, though. It just disables the cellular radio. While it also disables the Wifi and Bluetooth, those can always be turned back on, even while Airplane Mode is active. A motivated state actor can absolutely track via Wifi or Bluetooth. (Possibly even NFC, but the range on that is so low that I think it would impossible to do without seeing what is tracking you).
Turning the phone off is the best solution if you want to keep rhe phone on your person. Guaranteed that all possible avenues for tracking is off, and also has the advantage that even if the phone is seized, the latest phone OSes require the passcode before doing anything at all when they first power up. Even the Police are limited in the data they can get off a phone that has just powered up and is asking for the passcode.