I have never had a Motorola smartphone... But Canta is a thing

Yeah, I'd totally buy a phone running one of those provided it does all the phone things properly: SMS/MMS, reliable calls, all day battery, etc. I don't need fancy apps, I just need a working phone.

If I can get that, I could probably donate some time porting apps.

as a panicked graphene enjoyer, does oneplus measure up as a decent alternative or no?

It certainly feels like it is judging by the general moodshifts occuring.
But I'm a moron, what alternative exists for a secure phone of comparable functionality? It feels like ditching phones is the only option to some extent(for me). If stupid, isn't the phone the most vulnerable weakpoint open to attack?

I use a Oneplus 7 pro and my rom maintainer still updates and I still get a new version once every two months or so. If you want to omit gapps, you are more than free to do so. (Crdroid)

I know someone at a company that built and sold a Linux phone 19 years ago.

You're not upset you can't find a Linux phone: you're upset you can't find one anymore.

You are selling me mr. Fudge. I still need to do a lotta research but you are def sellin me here

The trap: He could stop builds for the OP7... tomorrow with zero warning.

That leads to my main takeaway for custom roms. Pick the phone with the most topics and replies on XDA. The more popular and liked, the more supported you'll be.

and never get attached to anything. Your phone miraculously has support, none are guaranteed it.

Verizon MVNO

Christ, why?

You have now anti-sold me and hyper-enlightened me with some very worthwhile wisdom. I can not say thank you enough--I truly need more like you in my life

Like, I understand the more the merrier, and so I don't hate on the whole Pixel, ROM development thingy, but I just don't understand the appeal of Pixel phones. If you want to be a photographer, get a camera. Other than that, you really don't need that great of a camera on your phone. Given the condition of America and the police state and corporate surveillance, I don't know why anybody with a damn look of sense would put their information on these major platforms, let alone even on the outskirts. Some people make money on social media, but a lot don't. I stick to my guns and I'm on the internet and computers to learn to educate myself, not to dick around with stupid shit. We need something other than Android. And we have to be weary of open source, especially when it's sponsored by Google. Google is a terrorist organization.

Have a couple OP 9pros and they'll be the last OP devices I buy.

There are severe bugs that OP never fixes and make using the phone for something like navigation unreliable. Battery life can be great one day and terrible the next when not even using the phone. Also OP sells carrier specific hardware. My TMO phones can't be used at AT&T or Verizon, severely limiting our options. My understanding is unlocked Pixel phones can be used on any carrier.

I really wanted to load Graphene, but even without it I'll consider a Pixel device.

Yes, but that shouldn't explicitly opt in, and they shouldn't marry that product to Gmail and Google Drive if they are going to push it to enable by default.

Again, it's really insidious. They push it so aggressively I had to disable it on my personal device twice, and I can't just not use Google Photos app because it's tied to the camera itself on pixel phones.

I really want to give furios phone a shot. It's apparently close to supporting my carrier.

That and a sailfish phone. The community one though didn't support my carrier (think it's mainly EU specced only.)

What I find missing most of the time though is any esim support. Makes me wonder if the hardware one that you can program an esim on works.

Why eSim? Does your carrier not support physical sim?

Or in other words, cuck licenses .

More like A-no-SP

Haha, great name, thanks for the link!

If Pine64 can spec out a reasonably decent prototype of a phone and Purism can sell theirs for 2 grand (not worth it), then somebody else can legit come out with something just the same. Pine64 project and Purism cannot be the only communities that can somehow come out with these kinds of tech. Better yet, more people should be jumping to help out these guys to be free from Google and Apple dominance.