We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink
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When's the last time the US nationalised something?
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:01 zuletzt editiert vonConrail?
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So you wanna nationalize the whole telecom industry then?
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:11 zuletzt editiert vonDon't threaten me with a good time!
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No thanks.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:21 zuletzt editiert vonSee, that's just cognitive dissonance. You start by saying it's only in theory, and when prompted with actual examples of this existing, you just shut your ears. I went as far as being honest on the particular points that were lacking, such as women/homosexual rights or climate/pollution regulation, but you're incapable of engaging with honest and reality-based analysis because it contradicts your absorbed anticommunist propaganda.
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The precedent that will set and the implications... No... We should not do this.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:25 zuletzt editiert vonHealth insurance, ISP, Oil Cos, and utilities should also be nationalized. The US is a weird place where everything is a business. A shithole capitalist hellscape
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The precedent that will set and the implications... No... We should not do this.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:33 zuletzt editiert vonNationalization is the opposite of privatization, it's how the US's bureaucratic state was really built, we should absolutely do this and right now is the time
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I've been saying this for years. the footprint that spaceX represents in national launch authority is out of whack to say the least.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:36 zuletzt editiert vonThe only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.
So we had one launch company, then spaceX made it two providers, now its back to one because B-mart is using antiquated launch systems (single use).
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:39 zuletzt editiert von
Arrest Musk on violation of controlled substances acts, file immigration violation charges, invalidate his ownership shares due to securities fraud, as he falsified education and naturalization forms.
Or just emminent domain the shit. The Law is just made up right now.
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Congress has always had this power. I'm personally for nationalizing telecomm companies.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:45 zuletzt editiert vonHealth; education; energy production; food production & distribution; water; housing; mass transit and telecommunications should all be classified as essential services and nationalised.
Everything else can be whatever. -
The only reason SpaceX exists is because Boeing and Lockheed managed to compete so badly the only solution was to merge their launch businesses.
So we had one launch company, then spaceX made it two providers, now its back to one because B-mart is using antiquated launch systems (single use).
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 01:58 zuletzt editiert vonthis isn't incorrect. ULA is a fucking pork barrel of hideous proportions. doesn't mean we shouldn't nationalize spacex.
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One way to get businesses to move their factories back to the US due to tarrifs: Start nationalizing them.
/s
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:08 zuletzt editiert von mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 6. Aug. 2025, 04:09I mean if they're utilities, we shouldn't let a board decide what should rightfully be in the hands of the voting public. Really they should welcome a stable (OK maybe not so stable in the US atm, but generally...) owner as the government.
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Agreed. These are things that should be of the people.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:16 zuletzt editiert von sunflier@lemmy.world 6. Aug. 2025, 09:00
I think that's a complicated question. It's both yes and no. Yes, we should nationalize them. No, nationalizing them should not be by tRump. That sets the precedent, or at least reinforces, the concept that the architecture of industry can be nationalized as payback for petty political squabbling. They should be nationalized, however, because fElon has proven himself to be unstable, reckless, petty, and a risk to the nation.
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No, they're fine remaining as private companies. If the government wants to better control over the companies then they can pass regulation and if they want total control then they can build their own alternatives. Nationalization of companies should never be used as a political weapon.
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Nationalization is so communist thing to do.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:37 zuletzt editiert vonMarxist are genuinely dumb enough to understand why this would be an issue.
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No, nazis actually privatised a lot of formerly state-owned sectors of the economy
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:38 zuletzt editiert vonThey also nationalized other sectors. They were actually quite centrist economically.
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Nationalization is the opposite of privatization, it's how the US's bureaucratic state was really built, we should absolutely do this and right now is the time
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:46 zuletzt editiert vonNo, this is just pure ignorance. The US never nationalized any sector. The US has only used nationalization as a means to stabilize certain sectors from collapse temporarily, and even this happens very rarely.
Nationalization stable, growing industries would have devastating impacts on the economy. These companies are running just fine, and they're providing their services reliably and at competitive prices, what would be the justification to nationalize them? If the government feels like it needs more control on these companies they can pass regulations, and if they want total control then they should launch their own public alternatives.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:47 zuletzt editiert von umbrella@lemmy.ml
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Health insurance, ISP, Oil Cos, and utilities should also be nationalized. The US is a weird place where everything is a business. A shithole capitalist hellscape
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:55 zuletzt editiert vonTankies live in alternate reality where they think that nationalization is extremely common and is a magical solution to all of societies problems... even though this view is entirely delusional.
For example, only 3 countries have nationalized the entire ISP industry, and those are Cuba, Turkmenistan, and North Korea. All three of which are horrid tyrannical dictatorships with horrible internet. We should NOT be like them. Even when it comes to health insurance, except for 3 countries I just mentioned, every single country allows private health insurance, even if their system is public. Clearly nationalization is not what you think it is.
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One way to get businesses to move their factories back to the US due to tarrifs: Start nationalizing them.
/s
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 02:56 zuletzt editiert vonTake the /s off the ruskies might believe you and run with it
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SpaceX and Starlink basically have no competition, and if they did, said competitor would also need to be heavily subsidized.
schrieb am 8. Juni 2025, 03:02 zuletzt editiert vonThese last few years they've had very little successes, but the point is it should stay competitive and not be automatically handed to these doofuses. Even the USSR maintained a competitive rocketry sector.
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