Airlines Are Selling Your Data to ICE
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A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.
The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.
Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.
schrieb am 10. Mai 2025, 15:00 zuletzt editiert vonCue the airlines come with hand-wringing to beg the Feds for more bailouts because "nobody is flying anymore."
Parasitical business practices should lead to market exit.
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Lufthansa and Air France might have some massive fines incoming.
schrieb am 10. Mai 2025, 15:24 zuletzt editiert vonMaximum GDPR fine is 4% of your revenue. For Lufthansa, that would be ~$1.4 billion, Air France ~$650 million, both of which are roughly their entire net income for one year.
Not sure if anyone has been hit with the maximum ever though, as everyone just keeps track of the dollars and not percentage of revenue.
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A massive aviation industry clearinghouse that processes data for twelve billion passenger flights per year is selling that information to the Trump administration amid the White House’s new immigration crackdown, according to documents reviewed by the Lever.
The data — including “full flight itineraries, passenger name records, and financial details, which are otherwise difficult or impossible to obtain” for past and future flights — is fed into a secretive government intelligence operation called the Travel Intelligence Program and provided to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies, records reveal.
Details of this program were outlined in procurement documents released Wednesday by ICE, which is a division of the Department of Homeland Security.
schrieb am 10. Mai 2025, 16:12 zuletzt editiert vonTwelve billion
I thought we we're approximately 8.2 Billion on earth? Am i missing something?
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Twelve billion
I thought we we're approximately 8.2 Billion on earth? Am i missing something?
schrieb am 10. Mai 2025, 16:49 zuletzt editiert vonYou're right, everyone is only allowed one flight per year this doesn't add up
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You're right, everyone is only allowed one flight per year this doesn't add up
schrieb am 10. Mai 2025, 23:50 zuletzt editiert von12 billion passenger is a bad way of saying it, 12 billion flights would've been better.
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Yeah that's one of the things that stood out as what the hell.. the companies already have the data, if ICE wanted it legally they shouldn't need to pay... Really shows how shady they're being.
schrieb am 11. Mai 2025, 01:24 zuletzt editiert vonThe government can’t just take every companies data. They absolutely can buy it if that is an option though. Just like how they pay for licenses for software, they can and do pay for data.
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12 billion passenger is a bad way of saying it, 12 billion flights would've been better.
schrieb am 11. Mai 2025, 01:28 zuletzt editiert von freedomadvocate@lemmy.net.auNo, passengers is the correct way of saying it. A flight can have hundreds of passengers. A person is a passenger every time they fly a leg on a plane.
Also it’s “passenger flights” in the OP, which would be a record of a passenger on a flight. If a person took 4 flights in one journey, that would count as 4 “passenger flights”.
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The government can’t just take every companies data. They absolutely can buy it if that is an option though. Just like how they pay for licenses for software, they can and do pay for data.
schrieb am 12. Mai 2025, 06:29 zuletzt editiert vonRelated to crimes, they kinda really can
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Related to crimes, they kinda really can
schrieb am 12. Mai 2025, 07:49 zuletzt editiert vonCorrect, but this is about collecting it without any crime.
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It’s like that because we vote in weak mediators that don’t do shit.
schrieb am 12. Mai 2025, 15:11 zuletzt editiert vonAnd we vote them in because the people that will do shit will inevitably fuck with the money of affluent neo-liberals.
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Correct, but this is about collecting it without any crime.
schrieb am 12. Mai 2025, 15:13 zuletzt editiert vonWhich is the problem.
ICE would not be able to legally subpoena these companies for our data, so they buy it from them as a loophole.
Using our tax dollars, of course.
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Which is the problem.
ICE would not be able to legally subpoena these companies for our data, so they buy it from them as a loophole.
Using our tax dollars, of course.
schrieb am 12. Mai 2025, 20:54 zuletzt editiert vonIt’s not a loophole though.
