Elon Musk wants to rewrite "the entire corpus of human knowledge" with Grok
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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:::schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:20 zuletzt editiert vonadding missing information and deleting errors
Which is to say, "I'm sick of Grok accurately portraying me as an evil dipshit, so I'm going to feed it a bunch of right-wing talking points and get rid of anything that hurts my feelings."
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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:::schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:36 zuletzt editiert vonI see Mr. Musk has started using intracerebrally.
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US tax payers clearly aren't since they're subsidising his drug habit.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:36 zuletzt editiert von magicshel@lemmy.zipIf we had direct control over how our tax dollars were spent, things would be different pretty fast. Might not be better, but different.
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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:::schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:38 zuletzt editiert vonI've seen what happens when image generating AI trains on AI art and I can't wait to see the same thing for "knowledge"
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The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:39 zuletzt editiert vonBut Grok 3.5/4 has Advanced Reasoning
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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Source.
:::schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:40 zuletzt editiert voniamverysmart
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I'm interested to see how this turns out. My prediction is that the AI trained from the results will be insane, in the unable-to-reason-effectively sense, because we don't yet have AIs capable of rewriting all that knowledge and keeping it consistent. Each little bit of it considered in isolation will fit the criteria that Musk provides, but taken as a whole it'll be a giant mess of contradictions.
Sure, the existing corpus of knowledge doesn't all say the same thing either, but the contradictions in it can be identified with deeper consistent patterns. An AI trained off of Reddit will learn drastically different outlooks and information from /r/conservative comments than it would from /r/news comments, but the fact that those are two identifiable communities means that it'd see a higher order consistency to this. If anything that'll help it understand that there are different views in the world.
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:48 zuletzt editiert vonLLMs are prediction tools. What it will produce is a corpus that doesn't use certain phrases, or will use others more heavily, but will have the same aggregate statistical "shape".
It'll also be preposterously hard for them to work out, since the data it was trained on always has someone eventually disagreeing with the racist fascist bullshit they'll get it to focus on. Eventually it'll start saying things that contradict whatever it was supposed to be saying, because statistically eventually some manner of contrary opinion is voiced.
They won't be able to check the entire corpus for weird stuff like that, or delights like MLK speeches being rewriten to be anti-integration, so the next version will have the same basic information, but passed through a filter that makes it sound like a drunk incel talking about asian women. -
But Grok 3.5/4 has Advanced Reasoning
schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:53 zuletzt editiert vonSurprised he didn’t name it Giga Reasoning or some other dumb shit.
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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:::schrieb am 22. Juni 2025, 23:53 zuletzt editiert vonThis is the Ministry of Truth.
This is the Ministry of Truth on AI.
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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:::schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:04 zuletzt editiert von friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldThis is just vibe written
fantasyhistorical fiction. -
We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
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Source.
:::schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:06 zuletzt editiert von"And the Libertarian founding fathers defeated the woke pro-slavery communists, to get rid of the DEI british and found America (which was uninhabited at the time)" -Grok
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How does anyone consider him a "genius"? This guy is just so stupid.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:14 zuletzt editiert vonGuessing some kind of PR campaign that he purchased to make him look like a genius on TV and movies.
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
::: spoiler More Context
Source.
:::schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:22 zuletzt editiert vonadding missing information
From where?
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Remember the "white genocide in South Africa" nonsense? That kind of rewriting of history.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:34 zuletzt editiert vonIt's not the LLM doing that though. It's the people feeding it information
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
::: spoiler More Context
Source.
:::schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:36 zuletzt editiert vonI love that he can call things "objectively false", but then not actually try and counterpoint any of them. It's wrong because it disagrees with what I believe. Is he going to claim the amounts are wrong, or that Jan 6th is not right wing. Disagree that left wing violence is at the extreme ends targeting property?
Grok is at least showing examples to explain it's conclusion, musk is just copying trumps "nope fake news".
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adding missing information
From where?
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:42 zuletzt editiert vonMusk's fascist ass.
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That's not how knowledge works. You can't just have an LLM hallucinate in missing gaps in knowledge and call it good.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:45 zuletzt editiert vonYeah, this would be a stupid plan based on a defective understanding of how LLMs work even before taking the blatant ulterior motives into account.
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We will use Grok 3.5 (maybe we should call it 4), which has advanced reasoning, to rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge, adding missing information and deleting errors.
Then retrain on that.
Far too much garbage in any foundation model trained on uncorrected data.
::: spoiler More Context
Source.
:::schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 00:59 zuletzt editiert vonAren't you not supposed to train LLMs on LLM-generated content?
Also he should call it Grok 5; so powerful that it skips over 4. That would be very characteristic of him
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It's not the LLM doing that though. It's the people feeding it information
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:12 zuletzt editiert vonTry rereading the whole tweet, it's not very long. It's specifically saying that they plan to "correct" the dataset using Grok, then retrain with that dataset.
It would be way too expensive to go through it by hand
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The plan to "rewrite the entire corpus of human knowledge" with AI sounds impressive until you realize LLMs are just pattern-matching systems that remix existing text. They can't create genuinely new knowledge or identify "missing information" that wasn't already in their training data.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 01:41 zuletzt editiert vonGenerally, yes. However, there have been some incredible (borderline "magic") emergent generalization capabilities that I don't think anyone was expecting.
Modern AI is more than just "pattern matching" at this point. Yes at the lowest levels, sure that's what it's doing, but then you could also say human brains are just pattern matching at that same low level.
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