An LAPD helicopter claimed to have ID'ed protesters from above and threatened to "come to your house"
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I mean, a proper Faraday cage will block anything unless the US government has figured out how to break the laws of physics...
Faraday cage does not prevent gyroscopes and accelerometers from working. Then if you remove it from a faraday cage in the future, it will transmit all that movement
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Not good enough. Phones can figure out its location using gyroscopes and accelerometer, then if at any point in the future, you remove it from the faraday cage, your entire movement logs are transmitted.
Unless your device is already compromised, that information isnt being logged when the device is powered off so it's kind of moot.
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This first thing you should do when going protesting, is to leave your phone at home.
I bring my phone. I likely won't be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system's time. Just another data point they have to sort.
And if it gets to the point where none of that matters we were cooked anyway
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Drop it on the tail prop so they start spinning and get hella dizza and throw up.
I would be shocked if they aren't equipped with puke bags for such an event and then your plan is foiled.
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I bring my phone. I likely won't be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system's time. Just another data point they have to sort.
And if it gets to the point where none of that matters we were cooked anyway
Lawyers operate in courts. We don’t have due process anymore.
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Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
I'm an American, but my only experience with LA was traveling through for 2 days about 10 years ago. AKA no experience with LA.
This action appears to be originated from LAPD and therefore the local LA government. I have always considered LA to be deeply blue, and would therefore think that their local LA government would be Democrat, not Republican.
So should this not be the local blue voting populace having a word with their blue elected politicians?
LAPD is not under the control of any government. They have literal warring gang factions within the LAPD. It is an occupying junta force.
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Unless your device is already compromised, that information isnt being logged when the device is powered off so it's kind of moot.
"powered off"
Unless I'm holding the battery in one hand and the phone in the other I don't trust it being turned off either.
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It's a very personal issue for me.
I lost everything and had to start over with little more then the clothes on my back, and then to hear people say I should've just moved?
Did you hear that from the president and the press? Or just random assholes on the internet?
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A well kept helicopter is a reliable machine as any other, but it's true that it's probably a civil heli with extra cop stuff, ergo easy to down with some fuckery.
Good thing fireworks are easy to find this time of year.
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Cool...
This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
Then fucking come over assholes
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"powered off"
Unless I'm holding the battery in one hand and the phone in the other I don't trust it being turned off either.
The reason it being turned off matters is because LE has a significantly more difficult time extracting data from that state. And again, a proper faraday bag prevents signal leak.
You guys are welcome to do what you want, I'm just explaining the best way to stay safe if you don't want to leave your phone at home. There are plenty of legitimate reasons someone may want one as a lifeline just in case.
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Cool...
This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
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This first thing you should do when going protesting, is to leave your phone at home.
and cover your face if you are in a shithole country like USA, Turkey, Russia etc
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That burner cant ever have connected to a cell tower when its near your house, otherwise its not longer a "burner"
Edit: Also: Beware of the possibility of there being malware that logs gyroscope and accelerometer data. Those info can be used to figure out your location, then transmitted whenever it has a chance.
That gives me a good idea. A week before the protest buy burners, use them frequently near republican supporters' house, go to a protest, use your phone all the time in the protest, dump them near the police, let them enjoy the fruits of the regime they supported.
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Lawyers operate in courts. We don’t have due process anymore.
Just go out wearing a MAGA hat. They only have small brains it'll probably confuse them.
Like how insects are always pretending to be wasps so they don't get eaten, see it's scientific.
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Not good enough. Phones can figure out its location using gyroscopes and accelerometer, then if at any point in the future, you remove it from the faraday cage, your entire movement logs are transmitted.
I don't think their gyroscopes are good enough for that level of inertial navigation. You could just fling it around tossing it up in the air and down again, that would totally mess with its navigation.
The far greater threat is that you just have the phone taken off you. For that reason alone you should use a burner, but I don't think you should be worried that they can track you based on gyroscope history.
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The reason it being turned off matters is because LE has a significantly more difficult time extracting data from that state. And again, a proper faraday bag prevents signal leak.
You guys are welcome to do what you want, I'm just explaining the best way to stay safe if you don't want to leave your phone at home. There are plenty of legitimate reasons someone may want one as a lifeline just in case.
My concern would be that the police would confiscate my phone. Not that they would necessarily be anything on it, but I don't want them to have my nice expensive phone. They can have this crappy cheap one instead.
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Did you hear that from the president and the press? Or just random assholes on the internet?
All of the above
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Just go out wearing a MAGA hat. They only have small brains it'll probably confuse them.
Like how insects are always pretending to be wasps so they don't get eaten, see it's scientific.
Or even just dress how they'd expect their own to dress, don't even need a dumbass hat. I wear an old tan leather jacket and a Swedish combat cap which apparently translates to friend for them. Also applies to the anarchists though, they see my clothes as friendly.
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Cool...
This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.
Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.
One wonders just how viable the Ukranian strategy would be to take out LAPD choppers (when landed, of course).
