Signal – an ethical replacement for WhatsApp
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When did WhatsApp start allowing signups without a phone number?
No clue. Never even tried to use it since it's a Meta product. I was referring to Signal's phone # requirement being a non-starter.
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Molly is in f-droid, though it's technically third party. Looks identical though.
I was looking at Molly.im and it has its own f-droid repo. There are two options: with and without Google servicios.
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Does it really matter who made it if you can see the source code? You don't have to trust them.
That’s kind of a core tenet of libre/open software, innit? Independently verifiable software that you can change at your pleasure.
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That’s kind of a core tenet of libre/open software, innit? Independently verifiable software that you can change at your pleasure.
Can you though? Can I build the apk myself and use their services?
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Anyone know why the Signal app isn't available on F-Droid? Isn't it supposed to be open source?
You can install and update it through Obtainium directly from GitHub.
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Can you though? Can I build the apk myself and use their services?
Yes, you can use their exact build environment straight from GitHub. You can also use Molly.im which is another app that i think is a fork? Im still investigating it.
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No clue. Never even tried to use it since it's a Meta product. I was referring to Signal's phone # requirement being a non-starter.
So what do you use now?
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Don't ask me for a phone number and I'll use it.
The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
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So what do you use now?
I use Element.
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
You're using the wrong lemmy server then, no problem with mine
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I use Element.
I use both and have been happy with both, but note that Element / Matrix have recently announced the intent to add paid service tiers.
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
It doesn't matter if you hide the number; at some point they deanonymized you when you signed up.
Want to be a dick about "hoops"? Get a number that isn't traceable. It can be done, but it's tough. I doubt its possible in the countries that really need anonymity of association.
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
If you're reading this comment, I posted it from proton vpn
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The founder of SimpleX is out of his mind. Check yourself: https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin
It doesn’t look good indeed…
Sadly, that’s what we have to work with. The app is pretty good though
TIL the founder is a transphobic and conservative piece of shit
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I believe in it,... for now.
I moved my family group to xmpp to have more personal control over our chats. Signal seems benevolent, but I've seen this play out before. Will it stay that way? We treat online forums with the idea that federstion works to stop enshittificstion. I believe XMPP is a good model for federating secure chatrooms for the same reason: People should control the voices of the people, not companies.
I am so excited to see people embracing xmpp! I’ve been using it since 2010 and I was really bummed when my company got swallowed up by a huge conglomerate and we were forced to use their shitty proprietary one.
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It doesn’t look good indeed…
Sadly, that’s what we have to work with. The app is pretty good though
TIL the founder is a transphobic and conservative piece of shit
Made a post to raise awareness
Avoid the lemmy.ml community because it’s moderated by that fucker
SimpleX's founder is transphobic, anti abortion, conservative, pro Israel, climatosceptic - programming.dev
https://lemmy.world/comment/17819080 [https://lemmy.world/comment/17819080] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1936818525915513091 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1936818525915513091] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1872333085179871696 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1872333085179871696] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1882531429546074480 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1882531429546074480] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1870950830654030109 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1870950830654030109] https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841 [https://xcancel.com/epoberezkin/status/1881832239186759841] As well as the many retweets
(programming.dev)
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I use both and have been happy with both, but note that Element / Matrix have recently announced the intent to add paid service tiers.
Fair enough, servers cost, you can self host it too...
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The irony of you posting this on lemmy, which won't allow posting from a VPN or masked email addresses is not lost on me.
The amount of hoops I had to jump through to make this comment and maintain some semblance of privacy is infuriating but at least it's not reddit I guess?
But do go on about your security standards...
Edit: BTW, you can set signal to hide your number completely. Combined with FOSS-based encryption keys on-device makes signal the only choice for trying to maintain freedom of expression globally.
Nothing will protect anyone from messaging with a snitch who knows how to screenshot though. Food for thought.. get to know your neighbors now.
Duck duck Go VPN connection here
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How many apps did you ask them to download?
Personally, I only asked for this one, and everyone who is of importance to me chose to do it.
I went from Telegram to WhatsApp. That was enough to annoy my people.
You know and I was the biggest smack talker of apple and I got the 16 pro just to get encryption when talking to my mom and husband. I can see why people like these things.
But it does feel very basic coming from a long time Samsung user.
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Fair enough, servers cost, you can self host it too...
Remeber, If it's "free", you are the product.
