Minnesota Shooting Suspect Allegedly Used Data Broker Sites to Find Targets’ Addresses
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These sites should be illegal. There is no legitimate use for them
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 15:40 zuletzt editiert vonThere are some legitimate uses for them but I definitely think they should be locked down so that only people who actually have a legitimate need can find people.
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It's actually really easy to get your info off these sites, as they have to delete it upon your request. Just take 20 minutes, pull up any random Top 20 Background Check Sites list, locate the specific pages with your info, and go to town with those deletion requests. (There should be a link to a deletion form on the page or a link to submit a request via email, at least that's how it was when I did this five years ago.)
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 16:32 zuletzt editiert vonI read your post and reply below and am surprised that your info never showed back up online.
I tried this myself about a year ago back when Google first announced they would also add a tool to assist in removal of unnecessary info like this.
I found that I was able to remove about 70% that never came back.
10-15 percent more, whether they were via Google or whatever, would flat out refuse to remove the info for various reasons.
The remainder would often remove it only for me to find it later with some sort of ‘change’ and that being - they put the info back in and had changed the spelling of my last name or now had me listed as a business so as to get around certain privacy listing rules (like WTF).
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I read your post and reply below and am surprised that your info never showed back up online.
I tried this myself about a year ago back when Google first announced they would also add a tool to assist in removal of unnecessary info like this.
I found that I was able to remove about 70% that never came back.
10-15 percent more, whether they were via Google or whatever, would flat out refuse to remove the info for various reasons.
The remainder would often remove it only for me to find it later with some sort of ‘change’ and that being - they put the info back in and had changed the spelling of my last name or now had me listed as a business so as to get around certain privacy listing rules (like WTF).
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 16:38 zuletzt editiert vonInteresting!
I haven't run into any of that. Not sure why, but what a pain.
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The suspect faces several charges of second-degree murder.
This baffles me. Looking up your fucking victim's addresses isn't enough evidence of premeditation to qualify for first-degree charges?
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 16:46 zuletzt editiert vonThat’s a charge that’s guaranteed, and may be all they need to achieve the outcome of him going away forever. They’re also free to charge him with more things, once the investigation finds more evidence
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If he was left-wing, this would be prosecuted (and propagandized by the media) as terrorism.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 16:48 zuletzt editiert vonAs a non American, wtf happened with that dude that almost killed trump? I feel like I heard about the whole thing when it happened, but it kinda just went away and I’m not even sure what that guy’s deal was. Maybe because we didn’t get all the headlines in Canada, but it certainly felt like it was brushed under a rug to me.
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Never heard that story before.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 17:29 zuletzt editiert vonIt's where the term borked comes from
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As a non American, wtf happened with that dude that almost killed trump? I feel like I heard about the whole thing when it happened, but it kinda just went away and I’m not even sure what that guy’s deal was. Maybe because we didn’t get all the headlines in Canada, but it certainly felt like it was brushed under a rug to me.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 17:31 zuletzt editiert vonSeems like there was more reporting on their clothing choice than on the person themselves.
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There are some legitimate uses for them but I definitely think they should be locked down so that only people who actually have a legitimate need can find people.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 18:04 zuletzt editiert vonI don't like data brokering in general, but they definitely need to crack down on de-anonymization.
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The suspect faces several charges of second-degree murder.
This baffles me. Looking up your fucking victim's addresses isn't enough evidence of premeditation to qualify for first-degree charges?
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 18:10 zuletzt editiert vonArguably, the list alone, plus the customized police vehicle and police outfit, would be enough premeditation.
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As a non American, wtf happened with that dude that almost killed trump? I feel like I heard about the whole thing when it happened, but it kinda just went away and I’m not even sure what that guy’s deal was. Maybe because we didn’t get all the headlines in Canada, but it certainly felt like it was brushed under a rug to me.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 18:41 zuletzt editiert vonHe got killed by the secret service during his attempt, I'm not sure they were later able to assess motive and stuff
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Well considering he chose to use a pyro-mechanical firearm, instead of things like social/political/legal/economical tools to accomplish his goal, seems to check out lol
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 19:01 zuletzt editiert vonShould've gone for the thermite, then at least we could call him a "hot" boomer.
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There was some story about privacy and politicians finally getting off their asses when they learned that their business records at porn shops could be revealed. I think this was in the 80s. Not sure at what level, but probably pretty local, I would guess.
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I don't like data brokering in general, but they definitely need to crack down on de-anonymization.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 19:17 zuletzt editiert vonAnonymous data sources are largely a myth. The idea you can have large sets of data remain anonymous is unrealistic. Once you have enough data points, it's easy to de-anonymize almost any individual
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My parents started screaming at me when I brought up a preacher killed these democrats. Telling me he was a Liberal. When I showed them his sermons in Africa. Again they double downed and said he was a democrat.
How would you respond to this ignorance? What facts can I show them. If they won’t even believe his own words at a church in Africa?
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My parents started screaming at me when I brought up a preacher killed these democrats. Telling me he was a Liberal. When I showed them his sermons in Africa. Again they double downed and said he was a democrat.
How would you respond to this ignorance? What facts can I show them. If they won’t even believe his own words at a church in Africa?
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 21:20 zuletzt editiert vonLock Fox news channels with parental control.
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Lock Fox news channels with parental control.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 21:25 zuletzt editiert vonSadly they don’t watch the news on TV. They went Qanon from social media and I can’t get to their phones.
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Sadly they don’t watch the news on TV. They went Qanon from social media and I can’t get to their phones.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 22:01 zuletzt editiert von zenith@lemm.eeThat depends entirely on how sneaky and unscrupulous you’re willing to be lol
Seriously though I’m sorry you’re dealing with this, it’s a shitty place to be. Personally I’ve had friends have some success with anti-cult/anti-brainsashing techniques but even when done under ideal conditions with people in obvious and outright cults it can fail. The human brain really just is wired in such a way cult think can genuinely hijack it
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There is no allegedly, the dude was a total boomer and literally wrote out instructions on how to dox someone in his notebook which are shown in the federal complaint against him
Literally outlines which sites are free, which ones have free trials, etc
Like you you would think he would just use a text document or bookmarks or something
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 22:06 zuletzt editiert vonIdk if I’m planning on murdering someone I’m not keeping it in digital form where who knows who or what is stealing/scraping it or using a back door or whatever. Deleting stuff off a computer can also be difficult with insane things being recovered off computers. I would have zero interest in linking anything illegal to anything digital in this day and age.
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Some sites already do this. Lexisnexis won't remove all of your info unless you're a government official, police officer, or have a police report about a threat against you. Absolute bullshit and should be illegal.
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 22:07 zuletzt editiert vonWhat if you just spoofed a police report about a threat?
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My parents started screaming at me when I brought up a preacher killed these democrats. Telling me he was a Liberal. When I showed them his sermons in Africa. Again they double downed and said he was a democrat.
How would you respond to this ignorance? What facts can I show them. If they won’t even believe his own words at a church in Africa?
schrieb am 17. Juni 2025, 22:28 zuletzt editiert vonThe more you try to use facts and reason, the more they will dig their heels in. It’s a tough uphill climb
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