Amazon boss tells staff AI means their jobs are at risk in coming years
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Ah yes those famous "Agents". They will of course write themselves, adapt themselves to changing environment and run on their own without any supervision.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 12:35 zuletzt editiert von pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipYes. Exactly. They'll also deploy upgrades to themselves painlessly. Thankfully that's never been a huge ongoing pain felt by everyone paying attention.
(I couldn't resisit adding a "yes, and" to your point.
Edit: And the AI agents will back themselves up correctly, too! We trained them on the activities of all currently living IT engineers, and the average of our work always results in a successful backup...
If that wasn't true, we would be having a new ransomware crisis every month...
I'm sure glad we live in one of the good timelines, and have plenty of clean correct code and configuration data to train our AI on!
(This is, of course, sarcasm. Companies that shift to AI IT agents today can expect to very quickly reach today's median IT outcome. There's not enough popcorn in the world for what is coming.)
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Between AI and Robotics, we will likely have a permanently unemployed segment of close to 50%, or even more, within the next decade.
Not everyone will be able to be retrained to be a robotics engineer or AI programmer, and many, many jobs that are considered entry-level will disappear. Imagine a world where most fast food and retail workers are unemployed.
When 40% of America is unemployed, the government will be faced with 2 options - Universal Basic Income, or reducing the population by 40%. Which solution will each party embrace, and how will they accomplish their objectives?
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 12:40 zuletzt editiert von pinball_wizard@lemmy.zipWhich solution will each party embrace, and how will they accomplish their objectives?
Both American partiesEach party will solve it the way they have solved climate change. -
When I was last there a while ago people were leaving but they were hoping for a lot more of an exodus. Particularly in the L6/7 level.
Has that changed?
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 12:44 zuletzt editiert vonbut they were hoping for a lot more of an exodus. Particularly in the L6/7 level.
Higher is more senior right? Counting up from L1?
If so, that's an insane amount of ego, to want less of that talent. Wow.
But I bet the drugs they do are amazing, though.
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As we roll out more generative AI and agents, it should change the way our work is done
we expect that this will reduce our total corporate workforce
Are we done for?
Amazon boss tells staff AI means their jobs are at risk in coming years
Andrew Jassy tells white collar workers that such technology means fewer people will be needed for some jobs
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 12:51 zuletzt editiert vonOut of all the jobs, the bosses job is the most replaceable
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Don’t worry, they’ve got the army + police at their feet to keep people in line!
unless the public are well organizedschrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 13:07 zuletzt editiert vonunemployed = more free time to organize!
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As we roll out more generative AI and agents, it should change the way our work is done
we expect that this will reduce our total corporate workforce
Are we done for?
Amazon boss tells staff AI means their jobs are at risk in coming years
Andrew Jassy tells white collar workers that such technology means fewer people will be needed for some jobs
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 14:26 zuletzt editiert vonI get the feeling that simply working at Amazon means your job is at risk.
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I get the feeling that simply working at Amazon means your job is at risk.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 14:42 zuletzt editiert vonThat's pretty much how it goes yeah lol
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Out of all the jobs, the bosses job is the most replaceable
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 14:42 zuletzt editiert vonYet they will never be replaced, sadly.
They get all of the credit and none of the blame.
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but they were hoping for a lot more of an exodus. Particularly in the L6/7 level.
Higher is more senior right? Counting up from L1?
If so, that's an insane amount of ego, to want less of that talent. Wow.
But I bet the drugs they do are amazing, though.
schrieb am 20. Juni 2025, 15:23 zuletzt editiert vonIt’s a bit misleading for engineering.
Every Engineer starts at L4. That’s the junior position.
L5 is the mid-senior level. Most SDEs in Amazon are L5 and that’s considered a terminal position. For management this is the “junior” (for lack of a better term) tier
L6 is Senior but it’s closer to staff engineers at other companies. You tend to do more cross team work. This is also where a glut of managers are at
L7 is Principal engineer and senior manager. Only about 2% of engineers get here. Managers at this lever oversee multiple teams.
L8+ is fancy external hires and directors.
The problem is that Amazon expects a lot of people to churn out before you hit the L6/7 levels. They dangle a carrot of super high pay for those tiers but don’t actually expect to pay it long term. There’s quite a few that have stayed longer than expected. And it’s hard to get out because they know how to game the system to demonstrate “impact”. Now that isn’t to say there aren’t a lot of good managers and engineers at this tier either. There are really good people at this tier. It’s just Amazon doesn’t want that many at this tier for long.
Also if the idea of having an expected churn and dangling pay that no one can hit sounds dystopian and awful it is. Amazon sucks.
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As we roll out more generative AI and agents, it should change the way our work is done
we expect that this will reduce our total corporate workforce
Are we done for?
Amazon boss tells staff AI means their jobs are at risk in coming years
Andrew Jassy tells white collar workers that such technology means fewer people will be needed for some jobs
the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)
schrieb am 21. Juni 2025, 20:19 zuletzt editiert vonTime to head for greener pastures.
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