Why Denmark is dumping Microsoft Office and Windows for LibreOffice and Linux
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The funny thing about that story, and the outset that no one covered after the fact, is that Munich reversed direction again and ultimately did go with Linux and open source stacks.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 13:56 zuletzt editiert vonnot really true.
so 20(!!!) years later they as the last of the states woke up.Nach LiMux-Aus: Wie sich München langsam wieder an Open Source annähert
Das IT-Referat München hat einen 5-Punkte-Plan für die Stärkung freier Software weitgehend umgesetzt. Für "Sabbaticals" können sich Interessierte noch bewerben.
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bavaria is pathetic. "LANGSAM" is their word for being backwards and ultra-conservative. i mean Freie Wähler? Aiwanger? What a shit place.
And it is just SAD that they just NOW started to civilize. worst of the west. -
I feel like there has to be a push in education for open source success
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 14:24 zuletzt editiert vonThe majority of Internet infrastructure runs on either something Linux based or something FreeBSD based.
A lot of the tools used are also various flavours of open or semi open source.
I'd say open source already has success. Just not in places where you see consumers using it. Except... Wait a minute, Android is a fork of Linux, and Android is open source too.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 14:33 zuletzt editiert von
Also good and free: Sumatra
You can read any pdf.Libre office drawer you can sign. No need for acrobat or any of that garbage.
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I feel like there has to be a push in education for open source success
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 15:31 zuletzt editiert vonYes average people need to learn the open source stack instead of Microsoft.
It used to be most people could just learn some Microsoft thing, and they were almost guaranteed a job. Obviously a lot of people will be unhappy that isn't the case anymore, and they'll be annoyed they have to learn something new.But this should have been done 20 years ago when Linux was obviously ready for it, and sensible people have advised it for just as long.
In the old CP/M days we had lots of good software developed locally, but when IBM became dominant, and chose to use MS-Dos, Microsoft was verycleverlydeviously leveraging that to sabotage the competition, and take mostly every main stream market.Trump is kind of a blessing in disguise, because he finally got people to wake up to reality.
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The majority of Internet infrastructure runs on either something Linux based or something FreeBSD based.
A lot of the tools used are also various flavours of open or semi open source.
I'd say open source already has success. Just not in places where you see consumers using it. Except... Wait a minute, Android is a fork of Linux, and Android is open source too.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 15:36 zuletzt editiert vonI wouldn’t consider Android a fork, the differences at the kernel level aren’t unlike differences you might find on embedded devices. It mainly just has the Google software suite instead of GNU
Also the PS4/5 run on freebsd
But that’s not what is being compared
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 15:42 zuletzt editiert von
The question is why not?
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A couple dozen of Danish municipalities are working on replacing Google and Microsoft entirely in schools with a project called OS2Skole (skole meaning "school"). It's expected to save them around €3 million in yearly and the intention is to de-Googleify and de-Microsoftify children already from an early age and to make it open source.
Mind you that the project was started before Trump got re-elected.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 17:07 zuletzt editiert vonIm Danish and had no clue about this, even though Im rather interested in open source.
Thanks for sharing.
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Also good and free: Sumatra
You can read any pdf.Libre office drawer you can sign. No need for acrobat or any of that garbage.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 17:20 zuletzt editiert vonIncluding adobe acrobat form pdfs?
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Also Microsoft products have become enshitified beyond recognition.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:28 zuletzt editiert vonI can't recall a single MS product that ever was good. Maybe I was late to the party (or quit early, as lots of people seam to like vscode for some reason)
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:35 zuletzt editiert von
Libreoffice for the fucking win!
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It's because libre office doesn't spy on you.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:37 zuletzt editiert vonthey are also no providing intelligence and ai assistance to the israeli regime rogue state genocide on neighboring city state Palestine
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Also good and free: Sumatra
You can read any pdf.Libre office drawer you can sign. No need for acrobat or any of that garbage.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:39 zuletzt editiert vonSumatra? I am going to take note of that.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:41 zuletzt editiert von
I wonder if it creates more inhouse sysadmin jobs? When you buy a license from M$ you also get tech support. But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
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A couple dozen of Danish municipalities are working on replacing Google and Microsoft entirely in schools with a project called OS2Skole (skole meaning "school"). It's expected to save them around €3 million in yearly and the intention is to de-Googleify and de-Microsoftify children already from an early age and to make it open source.
Mind you that the project was started before Trump got re-elected.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 18:50 zuletzt editiert vonThere is a out of the box product for that available,btw:
The UCS@school environment does exactly what they want, using only Open source products. It basically joins OpenLDAP,Samba,Keycloak,etc. together.
Works both with Windows as well as Linux clients. -
I wonder if it creates more inhouse sysadmin jobs? When you buy a license from M$ you also get tech support. But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:02 zuletzt editiert vonHopefully. But I think companies are already starting to realise the value of having your bytes in a place you control
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not really true.
so 20(!!!) years later they as the last of the states woke up.Nach LiMux-Aus: Wie sich München langsam wieder an Open Source annähert
Das IT-Referat München hat einen 5-Punkte-Plan für die Stärkung freier Software weitgehend umgesetzt. Für "Sabbaticals" können sich Interessierte noch bewerben.
heise online (www.heise.de)
bavaria is pathetic. "LANGSAM" is their word for being backwards and ultra-conservative. i mean Freie Wähler? Aiwanger? What a shit place.
And it is just SAD that they just NOW started to civilize. worst of the west.schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:05 zuletzt editiert vonI don't see anything contradicting what the other person said.
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I wonder if it creates more inhouse sysadmin jobs? When you buy a license from M$ you also get tech support. But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:09 zuletzt editiert vonNot necessarily, lots of open source projects offer enterprise support contracts and in house staff could be retrained. Definitely going to be good for training, consulting, and MSPs though
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I wonder if it creates more inhouse sysadmin jobs? When you buy a license from M$ you also get tech support. But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:09 zuletzt editiert vonBut if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
- Not necessarily, most commercial enterprise Linux distros sell support contracts, for example, RHEL and SUSE being the two most famous examples of that.
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I wonder if it creates more inhouse sysadmin jobs? When you buy a license from M$ you also get tech support. But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:13 zuletzt editiert von internetcitizen2@lemmy.world 6. Dez. 2025, 21:14Possibly does. On occasion I read about German cities trying to do similar, but then reverting back to M$.
Most of the issues are around people not wanting to take time to get use to new software (happened at a job where they moved to GSuite) or the FOSS stuff not having a corporation that can be sued for loss of earnings (like crowd strike when they didn't read only friday). Note that these are not technical issues with FOSS.
Still there is political support to not just use this as an angle to get M$ to lower their pricing.
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But if you have problems with open source, you gotta go get a computer person
- Not necessarily, most commercial enterprise Linux distros sell support contracts, for example, RHEL and SUSE being the two most famous examples of that.
schrieb am 12. Juni 2025, 19:17 zuletzt editiert vonYeah true, but these are more business to business. RHEL support is pretty expensive, and in my experience Oracle support (maybe not really open source) is both terrible and ridiculously expensive. Maybe this will create a market for more consumer like support. Maybe that could even create new business models for open source software.
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