Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
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@osma Recommend trying MXRoute. My experiences here: https://www.reddit.com/r/gsuitelegacymigration/comments/t7d0tr/lessons_learned_two_weeks_after_moving_my_family/
Thanks for recommendation. Looks fine otherwise, but I will not be using an American service.
@lcannell -
Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
#DeGoogle@osma Yes, map seems hard for me as well, but email? I never had an google mail so maybe I don't know what I am missing, but I never had a problem with the alternatives ...
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@osma Yes, map seems hard for me as well, but email? I never had an google mail so maybe I don't know what I am missing, but I never had a problem with the alternatives ...
I'm using "Posteo".Gmail is very good. The label mechanism works well especially wrt archiving messages, the spam filtering is top tier, the apps are quite good and so on. Its only problem is that it's by Google. Anyway, I have tested many other providers and none have come close.
@kasimir -
Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
#DeGoogle@osma Magic Earth has been pretty good for me as a google maps alternative, especially for transit. their privacy policy is good, and you can use the maps offline. they have headquarters in Amsterdam. (not FOSS, but nothing's perfect)
note that, like every other service i have used *except* google maps, it still has some outdated POIs, so a search may show locations that are permanently closed, etc. sadly i still use google maps in a private browser window, first, to figure out such info.
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@osma Magic Earth has been pretty good for me as a google maps alternative, especially for transit. their privacy policy is good, and you can use the maps offline. they have headquarters in Amsterdam. (not FOSS, but nothing's perfect)
note that, like every other service i have used *except* google maps, it still has some outdated POIs, so a search may show locations that are permanently closed, etc. sadly i still use google maps in a private browser window, first, to figure out such info.
Thanks for recommendation, I haven't seen that one before. So far, I've been very disappointed in the usability of both OrganicMaps and OsmAnd, two apps that many have recommended.
@tmw -
Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
#DeGoogle@osma Proton mail works fine for me for emails. So do Firefox and Ecosia for searches. In any case, you pay for Google bells and whistles in ways that are not worth it. I'm happy to compromise a bit on convenience if it means I'm not supporting the tech bros.
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Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
#DeGoogleDon't @ me defending bad usability. There's no excuse for bad usability, not when good examples have been widely known for well over a decade.
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@osma Proton mail works fine for me for emails. So do Firefox and Ecosia for searches. In any case, you pay for Google bells and whistles in ways that are not worth it. I'm happy to compromise a bit on convenience if it means I'm not supporting the tech bros.
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Gmail is very good. The label mechanism works well especially wrt archiving messages, the spam filtering is top tier, the apps are quite good and so on. Its only problem is that it's by Google. Anyway, I have tested many other providers and none have come close.
@kasimirosma@mas.to hi, have you tried FastMail? It's the one I use that is pretty nice. I am not sure if they're an American company however.
On the search front I have heard good things about Kagi paid search (apparently blows DDG out of the water?)
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They are an AU company with US servers. No can do.
Search has plenty of options. Qwant and Ecosia are two European ones.
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Migrating away from Google is damn hard, when alternative email providers are crap about spam and phishing filtering, alternative Maps applications fail searching location names, and alternative office apps are slow and buggy.
#DeGoogleSo, I gave up on trying to make OsmAnd, OrganicMaps and the like work for me, I appreciate good UX too much to suffer them. Fortunately there is also HERE WeGo, which turned European when Nokia acquired Navteq. Thanks, Nokia.
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So, I gave up on trying to make OsmAnd, OrganicMaps and the like work for me, I appreciate good UX too much to suffer them. Fortunately there is also HERE WeGo, which turned European when Nokia acquired Navteq. Thanks, Nokia.
@osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.
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@osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.
It doesn't matter what I use it for. OrganicMaps UI is atrocious, completely wrong stuff gets premiumon screen placement. Unacceptable.
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@osma What are you using it for? I find OrganicMaps acceptable.
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q2@mastodon.nu nice, I wasn't happy with OSMAnd+, so hopefully this will go better!
