Maybe they can finally get a real job?

Just because it's being normalized by the Linuses and Tech Jesuses on youtube doesn't mean we shouldn't call it what it is.

This video is click bait and the content is rather mid. We're clearly supposed to feel some kind of outrage over a freedom of press kinda thing, but in reality the video is more like: waaah our ad revenue took a hit on this one video because of Big Evil Company abusing the copyright claim system, NOT FAIR! (Ignoring that this has been happening hundreds if not thousands of times per day for over a decade to much smaller channels than GamersNexus, without a peep from Tech Jesus on the issue).

Isn't this a bit disingenuous to why they originally started to change the algorithm though?

People figured it out and started abusing it by spinning up proxy websites that would just link to the sites they wanted higher up in the rankings. You could argue Google only became an advertising company so that they could regulate that whilst also taking a slice.

I'm not arguing that they've since lost their way though.

The actual title of the video is:

Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg

Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.

Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.

Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move

Well I didn't mean not publishing on YouTube completely because we know that's not possible at this point in time, I meant like having an archive of their own videos accesible via Torrent... Kinda like how some let's players are doing by putting their uncensored versions on Patreon (with swearing and stuff) or early access to their content, but in this case, putting the YouTube version in a torrent in case some shit like this happens so the access is not lost forever.

Like, not choosing only one way of publishing or another, just casting a wider net.

The actual title of the video is:

Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg

Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.

Messy. Youtube could just refuse to serve his videos because they decide they don't want to

They have more lawyers than God, I can't help but think the contract they all have with Google favors Google to the extreme.

"small."

Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.

Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it's not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg's ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it's already yapping and took it's first bite.

Yeh, exactly.
It's a private company.
It's a huge platform, but YouTube can choose what YouTube is.

The only way any change happens is if YouTube gets raked over the coals by enough content producers (that they could collectively start their own platform) by media and potentially by governments (recognising them as some sort of critical communications or something and implementing regulations?).
Or if all the YouTube viewers decide they have had enough and go elsewhere (where, tho? Kinda goes hand-in-hand with creators starting their own platform).

So the pressure needs to keep building, YouTube needs to keep doing shitty things. Eventually... Hopefully?... Something changes: YouTube gets better, a new platform is born.

People with enough of a viewership would still be offered sponsorship for videos. Like YouTubers who do their own ads in videos.

You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown

So what you're basically saying is that any YouTube channel since the dawn of the DMCA has been permanently in the status of "Our Channel Could Be Deleted". That's... not exactly news is it? What makes the GamersNexus case special?

Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?

I’m actually on your side. I was bringing up those questions to question why they would get upset with be gently applying clickbait label.

Usually fans of these channels fall in line with the rhetoric.

But once again, I tried a conversation style that failed when I didn’t get a response from who I was talking to, and I got downvotes.

sorry, not everyone is browsing lemmy as if it was a full time job. also I'm not a fan of them in that sense. Maybe I have watched 3 of their videos and even that was years ago. I just understand that copyright strikes are very dangerous even for a big channel like that, because independently of how many videos you have, it's always only 3 strikes you need to get your channel deleted, and if they are mad and start looking it could easily happen.

I don't think it's clickbait. if you made a company angry, it's not that hard to get another 2 strikes too now that they are watching more closely, and it's very hard if not impossible to get back a channel from that.

No worries are directed at you. It’s just me lamenting how I keep going about things wrong.

I need to touch grass, for sure.

So it was strike 1? And wasn’t strike 3 and the deletion is pending? It’s not the worst stretch of things, but it’s stretching it a little unless the deletion is pending.

I don’t think your perspective is invalid tho.