Our Channel Could Be Deleted - Gamers Nexus
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The actual title of the video is:
Our GPU Black Market Documentary Has Been Taken Down by Bloomberg
Way less Click Bait sounding. And while a shitty thing for Bloomberg to do it is not any different than what tons of channels have been dealing with for years. So the Youtube sky is not falling any faster now than it was last week.
It's not uncommon for titles to change over the first few hours after a release (A-B testing). I've seen the title as posted by the OP yesterday on my feed.
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Messy. Youtube could just refuse to serve his videos because they decide they don't want to
They have more lawyers than God, I can't help but think the contract they all have with Google favors Google to the extreme.
Yeh, exactly.
It's a private company.
It's a huge platform, but YouTube can choose what YouTube is.The only way any change happens is if YouTube gets raked over the coals by enough content producers (that they could collectively start their own platform) by media and potentially by governments (recognising them as some sort of critical communications or something and implementing regulations?).
Or if all the YouTube viewers decide they have had enough and go elsewhere (where, tho? Kinda goes hand-in-hand with creators starting their own platform).So the pressure needs to keep building, YouTube needs to keep doing shitty things. Eventually... Hopefully?... Something changes: YouTube gets better, a new platform is born.
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"small."
Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.
Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it's not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg's ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it's already yapping and took it's first bite.
What’s the difference between a million dollars and a billion dollars?
Answer: roughly a billion dollars.
Being a million-dollar company means nothing against a company where a million dollars can count as little more than a rounding error.
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Yeh, exactly.
It's a private company.
It's a huge platform, but YouTube can choose what YouTube is.The only way any change happens is if YouTube gets raked over the coals by enough content producers (that they could collectively start their own platform) by media and potentially by governments (recognising them as some sort of critical communications or something and implementing regulations?).
Or if all the YouTube viewers decide they have had enough and go elsewhere (where, tho? Kinda goes hand-in-hand with creators starting their own platform).So the pressure needs to keep building, YouTube needs to keep doing shitty things. Eventually... Hopefully?... Something changes: YouTube gets better, a new platform is born.
We need monetization in peertube, and peertube to have community tools like (or exceeding) lemmy.
I think it's a pretty low bar, but it's not just going to happen without massive interest
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People with enough of a viewership would still be offered sponsorship for videos. Like YouTubers who do their own ads in videos.
Lots of times the sponsorship is a free product (that doesn’t pay the bills) but larger channels that have several million subscribers have the leverage to ask for thousands of dollars for a sponsorship.
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You can easily get three strikes in a few moments with frivolous takedown
So what you're basically saying is that any YouTube channel since the dawn of the DMCA has been permanently in the status of "Our Channel Could Be Deleted". That's... not exactly news is it? What makes the GamersNexus case special?
What's different is they are being targeted.
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Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?
I don't think it's clickbait. if you made a company angry, it's not that hard to get another 2 strikes too now that they are watching more closely, and it's very hard if not impossible to get back a channel from that.
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I’m actually on your side. I was bringing up those questions to question why they would get upset with be gently applying clickbait label.
Usually fans of these channels fall in line with the rhetoric.
But once again, I tried a conversation style that failed when I didn’t get a response from who I was talking to, and I got downvotes.
sorry, not everyone is browsing lemmy as if it was a full time job. also I'm not a fan of them in that sense. Maybe I have watched 3 of their videos and even that was years ago. I just understand that copyright strikes are very dangerous even for a big channel like that, because independently of how many videos you have, it's always only 3 strikes you need to get your channel deleted, and if they are mad and start looking it could easily happen.
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sorry, not everyone is browsing lemmy as if it was a full time job. also I'm not a fan of them in that sense. Maybe I have watched 3 of their videos and even that was years ago. I just understand that copyright strikes are very dangerous even for a big channel like that, because independently of how many videos you have, it's always only 3 strikes you need to get your channel deleted, and if they are mad and start looking it could easily happen.
No worries are directed at you. It’s just me lamenting how I keep going about things wrong.
I need to touch grass, for sure.
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I don't think it's clickbait. if you made a company angry, it's not that hard to get another 2 strikes too now that they are watching more closely, and it's very hard if not impossible to get back a channel from that.
So it was strike 1? And wasn’t strike 3 and the deletion is pending? It’s not the worst stretch of things, but it’s stretching it a little unless the deletion is pending.
I don’t think your perspective is invalid tho.
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No worries are directed at you. It’s just me lamenting how I keep going about things wrong.
I need to touch grass, for sure.
nah, me too, other days I use it too much I have to admit.
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So it was strike 1? And wasn’t strike 3 and the deletion is pending? It’s not the worst stretch of things, but it’s stretching it a little unless the deletion is pending.
I don’t think your perspective is invalid tho.
afaik (but take it with a grain of salt) at 3 strikes the decision is not pending but automatic, and very hard to reverse, partly because kost of decision making at youtube has been automatic for a long time, and just like with google they don't have a support channel (that is easy to find and reach)
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He gets around 750 Million Youtube verified views per month , he's releasing about 5 hours of content per month.
He's not self-hosting that cheaply.
His sponsors are giving him the a nice pile of money based on his view count, he's not going to manage that on his own without the algo pumping users to him. Search engines kind of suck and video bloggers at that scale need organics to keep going.
You can't add monetization without discoverability and accessibility.
Looking at those numbers, I don't even know that peertube could handle it, he'd probably need to setup his own cluster to mirror them all.
There's a reason why we don't have a lot of competition to YouTube.
He'd probably have to have a dedicated video hosting site, not unlike GameTrailers and similars from the very early 2010s
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Ad revenue. They'd still get sales through their store, as well as sponsor revenue.
No one is going to sponsor a creator who has no way to garner an audience.
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God I hope you’re right. We create such beautiful things. I’d hate to see humanity become so hollow that we stoop to accepting AI slop as art.
Well, just think about how pervasive cheap junk plastic (toys, food packaging, vehicles, furniture, etc) is in our society, yet there are tons of people who make or buy things made out of high quality materials like solid wood furniture or quality steel kitchen appliances. So, there will always be people who reject imitation and embrace originality (and you can find them at art festivals!)
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Well, just think about how pervasive cheap junk plastic (toys, food packaging, vehicles, furniture, etc) is in our society, yet there are tons of people who make or buy things made out of high quality materials like solid wood furniture or quality steel kitchen appliances. So, there will always be people who reject imitation and embrace originality (and you can find them at art festivals!)
I’m just thinking about all of the gigs and contracts musicians and other artists are going to miss out on because some smug kid with a laptop can coherently type a string of words into a field a produce what gets the job done for a quarter of the price.
It’s a shame.
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He gets around 750 Million Youtube verified views per month , he's releasing about 5 hours of content per month.
He's not self-hosting that cheaply.
His sponsors are giving him the a nice pile of money based on his view count, he's not going to manage that on his own without the algo pumping users to him. Search engines kind of suck and video bloggers at that scale need organics to keep going.
You can't add monetization without discoverability and accessibility.
Looking at those numbers, I don't even know that peertube could handle it, he'd probably need to setup his own cluster to mirror them all.
There's a reason why we don't have a lot of competition to YouTube.
We need a site that points peertube users to the accounts of their old youtube favorites.
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LTT storage is excessive. He stores all his footage in full quality instead of just storing his final edited videos in a compressed format. Plus if you're a youtuber with millions of subscribers you can afford to pay for a few TB of storage to hold and serve your videos. Its not that expensive.
Uh he just build a 2PB rack or something so hes far away from TB
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We need a site that points peertube users to the accounts of their old youtube favorites.
Grayjay is trying to address this. Their idea is that you follow creators rather than accounts on sites. I haven't tried it in a while it was not real good at it last time I tried it but it may be better by now
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I’m just thinking about all of the gigs and contracts musicians and other artists are going to miss out on because some smug kid with a laptop can coherently type a string of words into a field a produce what gets the job done for a quarter of the price.
It’s a shame.
Maybe that will happen in those giant urban nightmares they call cities. I moved out of the decaying concrete jungle (Escape From L.A.!) and have been living in small towns for the past decade. Here, live music is made every night, spilling out onto the boardwalk and carried by the wind to brighten and invigorate minds old and new. Real music is an art that will survive the AI apocalypse, and perhaps be the last echo of our civilization, spreading out into the cosmos long after we're gone, and exchanting distant (alien) minds.
