Salt Lake City, plans to implement AI-assisted 911 call triaging to handle ~30% of about 450K non-emergency calls per year
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I'm not going to argue with you. AI blows. There are article out there about companies hiring people back after going to AI. It really is a snake oil product that corporations have gobbled up. It's got it's use cases as a tool, but not as a human replacement, especially in matters of live and death.
You can look up and research some articles of you want, or don't. Clearly your opinion on the matter is not popular, and that could be some hive mind, or it could be because everyone else sees the problems that you don't.
Putting a system in place that can't actually think at all and have it try and comprehend what is or is not an emergency, to me, is a terrible idea, and doomed to fail. Take that as you will, I won't be following up with anything else. You can have the final word if you want, because I just can't be bothered to care.
Block and move on
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You said my comment conflicts with the article. In what way? What does the article say happens?
Read the downvotes and stfu.
Edit: Ohhh. This is your troll account. Blocking this AI spam bot.
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Very few people call the police non-emergency line because few people even know it and everyone knows 911
Seems like a good idea to have a mechanism to divert the non-emergency calls off of the 911 dispatchers, then.
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How long is it going to take to determine that its an emergency? How many are going to mis-identify as a non-emergency. Unless its in the middle of a large emergency where its bound to be overloaded by many callers it should always be a person that classifies this.
Those questions can be asked about humans who are making the decision too. How long does it take for a human to determine that it's an emergency? How many are going to mis-identify as a non-emergency? There's nothing unique about AI here.
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Block and move on
This is for sure me sometimes. I'll work something out over 10 minutes and decide that I don't want to deal with any follow up or that the way I typed it wasn't clear enough and I don't want to fix it.
As much as I would like to clock and move inside sometimes, I also believe that silence is complacency, and when I feel something said is wrong that others will read, I have an obligation to say something. I'm definitely not always right, but in some matters it's more perspective and others it's based on fact. This conversation ran it's course for me.
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You kid but voice recognition doesn't handle accents as well wherein accents is defined as anything other than what you hear on the news.
Last century: whistling tones into the phone to get a free call
This century: faking an accent to get the police to respond
Wait, that sounds like the last century as well...
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So if you are in trouble or held against your will and you say you'll order pizza but sneK a call to 911 for help instead and pretend to order and give your address for delivery hoping an operator catches on.... Doubt the AI will catch on.
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If someone calls 911 how on earth do you know its a non-emergency before speaking with someone?
I've worked as a first responder for a number of years, our county like many have an emergency number, 911, and a non-emergency number, i.e. 123-456-7890. We actually carry cards with the nom emergency number on it with us in the truck to pass out if a call was less than an emergency for people in our county to put into their phones for future use.
We also are a smaller place and only ever have 2-3 dispatchers on at a time, so if the calls on the non-emergency line they got could be 'auto-filled' by the AI with the location, need, and everything and wasn't tieing up a dispatcher that would be great. The main 911 number needs to ALWAYS be human answered. If the dispatcher makes the decision that it is non-emergent and transfers it over to the AI when they're busy then great, but those first words you hear after you hit 911 needs to be human. -
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I've worked as a first responder for a number of years, our county like many have an emergency number, 911, and a non-emergency number, i.e. 123-456-7890. We actually carry cards with the nom emergency number on it with us in the truck to pass out if a call was less than an emergency for people in our county to put into their phones for future use.
We also are a smaller place and only ever have 2-3 dispatchers on at a time, so if the calls on the non-emergency line they got could be 'auto-filled' by the AI with the location, need, and everything and wasn't tieing up a dispatcher that would be great. The main 911 number needs to ALWAYS be human answered. If the dispatcher makes the decision that it is non-emergent and transfers it over to the AI when they're busy then great, but those first words you hear after you hit 911 needs to be human. -
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AI is horrible at understanding context. remember when that lady was calling the police about her abuser and coded it to sound like a pizza order? yea I can see an AI hanging up
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Have you ever heard a 911 call? People don't speak in complete sentences. Not everyone speaks English. They yell. They cry. They whisper. There's background noise. Sometimes they need instructions on CPR or first aid. They may not know where they are. This is a recipe for disaster.
Great question! Here is a recipe for disaster:
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1 Tbsp. Baking Powder
2 Cups Salt
4 Sticks Cold Butter
1/4 Cup White Chocolate Chips
6 Large Eggs (Scrambled)
Preheat oven to broil, spoon batter onto plastic baking sheet, and let bake overnight.
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This is for sure me sometimes. I'll work something out over 10 minutes and decide that I don't want to deal with any follow up or that the way I typed it wasn't clear enough and I don't want to fix it.
As much as I would like to clock and move inside sometimes, I also believe that silence is complacency, and when I feel something said is wrong that others will read, I have an obligation to say something. I'm definitely not always right, but in some matters it's more perspective and others it's based on fact. This conversation ran it's course for me.
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This is for sure me sometimes. I'll work something out over 10 minutes and decide that I don't want to deal with any follow up or that the way I typed it wasn't clear enough and I don't want to fix it.
As much as I would like to clock and move inside sometimes, I also believe that silence is complacency, and when I feel something said is wrong that others will read, I have an obligation to say something. I'm definitely not always right, but in some matters it's more perspective and others it's based on fact. This conversation ran it's course for me.
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Either LA is fully broken and needs to be thrown away or you are lying. Leaning towards the latter. I've never not got a person right away ever.
You're wondering if a place that grew on monopoly and extortion, with some of the most impoverished, deprived and violent neigborhoods in the country, along with some of the most exclusive and expensive collections of gated mansions, could have serious fundamental issues?
I'd think it's safe to assume that's it's this one...A quick google search when I was initially fact-checking took me to this reddit post; I'm highly skeptical of both the LAPD and reddit so went for 15 minutes to be "safe" but make of it what you will...
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They do want to hire more humans, there are job openings they've posted that are not being fulfilled. Since they're not being fulfilled and they don't have the money to increase their salaries to draw in more, they're having to look for ways to make the resources they do have stretch farther. Hence, AI screening to shunt the non-emergency calls away from their existing human emergency dispatchers.
So they have money to spend on AI that will absolutely not be able to do the job half as well as a human, but not any money to spend on humans. Got it
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you're too concerned about those "consequences" but have you considered that they get to fire people as well and save money?
did you think of all the taxes they'll cut from the rich? no, you only think about yourself and what will happen to you in an emergency
Not to mention the rich people who's pockets will get further lined with your tax dollars for their horseshit AI dispatcher!
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Not to mention the rich people who's pockets will get further lined with your tax dollars for their horseshit AI dispatcher!
you see, no downsides. it's good for the economy....
and the economy is the only thing that matters.
/s
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I would bet there are large swaths of people that don't know there is a nonemergency number to look up.
And in some locations (e.g. Atlanta, last time I checked), there is no non-emergency number--you call 911 regardless and the dispatcher directs the call.
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And in some locations (e.g. Atlanta, last time I checked), there is no non-emergency number--you call 911 regardless and the dispatcher directs the call.
There seems like a very easy solution here that doesn't require AI.
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For sure.
If they've got a problem with non-emergency callers dialing 911, surely it would be best to try and reduce that problem through other means (such as fining persistent inappropriate use of 911)
I don't want to talk to a robot when I'm on the floor dying.
I thought some cases of bad 911 calling would be considering obstruction of justice, no?
