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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • Think about this when you see politicians trying to pass absurd laws like banning all regulation of AI. AI is a cover to remove any last semblance of accountability for atrocious and illegal activities

    Politicians attempting to ban AI regulation are only shielding OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, etc. Those same politicians will pearl clutch about Hugging Face or DeepSeek in the same breath. It's just about money and the arms race. Abdicating responsibility to AI would require either a change in how we regulate people or a granting of rights/responsibility to AI. Though I don't doubt we will see people try to blame AI for their poor decisions.

  • It's guaranteed the number of bystanders that were killed while they killed these "targets" is not zero.

    Bet it isn’t a refugee camp sized amount nor an entire city blocks worth though.

  • Here you go, I have FACTS what have you got?

    https://ebeggin.substack.com/p/ratlines-nato-and-the-fourth-reich
    https://www.businessinsider.com/former-nazi-officials-in-germany-post-world-war-ii-government-2016-10?r=US&IR=T
    https://www.dispropaganda.com/single-post/2019/04/04/natos-secret-nazi-past
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB_Gs-0dhOo

    US/UK also had no problem taking Spain, Portugal, Greece and other completely fascist countries in NATO.

    Capitalism and fascism have always been good friends.

    LOL cowardly downvotes for inconvenient facts and...
    awkward silence....

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Since when is it legal to kill civilian scientists in another country?

  • Since when is it legal to kill civilian scientists in another country?

    It got more legal a few years ago, I think. Not explicitly "made legal", but the legal foundations have been eroded. I.e. if you can expect to get away with something it is legal in a very real sense.

    It's always been practically legal for empires like the US, Russia, China to commit any atrocities in weak countries, More and more countries are seeing how much they can get away with.

    Netanyahu tested the limits over and over and saw there were really quite few legal limits. With Gaza, he saw the limits didn't actually exist at all.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Vibe warfare sounds like a terrible idea

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Few things say "you need a nuke, you need it right now" like foreign states killing your scientists, in their beds in the dead of night

  • Could you please kill the leaders instead? Of Israel too?

    The country is funded by a supermacist colonial ideology. The population need to be dezionified and other country should do their obligations in stoping a genocidal state

  • This was clear since such a big and supposedly effective intelligence apparatus failed to stop or warn about the Hamas attack that gave Israel pretext to go full ethnic cleaning and warmongering.

    They knew, they allowed it, and paid a modest price in Israeli casualties to kickstart their plan. Also, Ukraine was attracting all the war funding, they couldn’t risk USA reducing their military allowance.

    I hate that USA is enabling them, and at the same time being hipocritical about wanting a peaceful solution. Cut their funding if you want to stop them. Freeze their assets like NATO did with Russia. Act, don’t talk.

    There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can't never make mistakes bs.

    Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn't mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    Yet they didn’t know about preparation for the October 7th attack?

    Tinfoil hat mode: they let it happen to have a reason to raze Gaza to the ground.

    (Sorry, that’s my "Bush did 9/11" moment)

  • o no! israel thwarted iran's nuclear ambitions! the horror!!!

    It's civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

    You're part of the problem.

  • It got more legal a few years ago, I think. Not explicitly "made legal", but the legal foundations have been eroded. I.e. if you can expect to get away with something it is legal in a very real sense.

    It's always been practically legal for empires like the US, Russia, China to commit any atrocities in weak countries, More and more countries are seeing how much they can get away with.

    Netanyahu tested the limits over and over and saw there were really quite few legal limits. With Gaza, he saw the limits didn't actually exist at all.

    I'm surprised there aren't more high level assassinations.

  • Yet they didn’t know about preparation for the October 7th attack?

    Tinfoil hat mode: they let it happen to have a reason to raze Gaza to the ground.

    (Sorry, that’s my "Bush did 9/11" moment)

    No tinfoil needed, has it not been confirmed that Netanyahu was aware of the attacks and let them happen?

  • It would take one phone call from the President, and the genocide would stop. Biden could have done it, and Trump still can. I don’t see the US governments unwavering support of Israel ever ending.

    Who upvotes this shit? Are people here really this naive?

  • Europeans did the genocide and took over America, in a much larger scale. Israel is just a smaller copy cat. The fact USA exists justifies what Israel does.

    Insane that there are people who actually believe this shit.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    The Zola algorithm is real

  • No tinfoil needed, has it not been confirmed that Netanyahu was aware of the attacks and let them happen?

    I don’t believe that has been confirmed, but I could be wrong.

    Edit: I stand corrected.

  • Who upvotes this shit? Are people here really this naive?

    I don’t see how that is naive at all. We prop Israel up. If the president calls Bibi and threatens to stop all aid, unless they imposed a ceasefire, it would happen. They have so much power, tech and weaponry because we give it to them. If we pointed the barrel of the most powerful military on earth at them, they would cease immediately.

  • It's civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

    You're part of the problem.

    It's civilian scientists working on nuclear energy we are talking about.

    Is it though? What level of enrichment do they need for a nuclear energy program, and what level of enrichment were they at? I think it’s naive to say they weren’t working on a weapon.

    I’m not saying it justifies killing civilian scientists, but we ought to be honest about the why.

  • Every military makes plans for any contingency,

    In defense, to respond to an attack.
    The word contingency is important.

    If the military is planning acts of aggression then that is called preparing for war.

    Militaries tend to do both this things.

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