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Heydey ho folks, anybody know a decent search engine with a lite interface?

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  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

    Also I hope this isn't the wrong place, initially I was gonna ask the privacy comm over at db0 but that DEFINITELY felt like the wrong place after I'd typed up my whole post

  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

    It's difficult for software to identify slop, since if there was a technical way to do so, the same methods would be used to generate more convincing slop.

    You could give kagi.com a try (fake email address gets you 100 free trial queries) but idk if the output format will work with your browsers. Paid plans start at $5/month. It gives you more filtering options than DDG and so on give you, but I don't think it's better at detecting slop. Some people think it's great and that it's well worth the cost. I tried the 100 queries and thought it was a bit nicer than DDG but not that big a deal. YMMV.

  • It's difficult for software to identify slop, since if there was a technical way to do so, the same methods would be used to generate more convincing slop.

    You could give kagi.com a try (fake email address gets you 100 free trial queries) but idk if the output format will work with your browsers. Paid plans start at $5/month. It gives you more filtering options than DDG and so on give you, but I don't think it's better at detecting slop. Some people think it's great and that it's well worth the cost. I tried the 100 queries and thought it was a bit nicer than DDG but not that big a deal. YMMV.

    Worth a shot for a free trial, thank you 🙏

  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

    DDG offers multiple frontends including DDG HTML

  • DDG offers multiple frontends including DDG HTML

    Lite.duckduckgo.com is what I've been using, but the issue isn't the interface its the search results.

    While anything more than basic HTML is gonna be a non-starter for my browsers, the actual issue here is quality of results.

  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

    Did u try SeaMonkey and midori or palemoon

  • Did u try SeaMonkey and midori or palemoon

    I have 2 gigs of RAM my friend, all my browsing is done in Links or Offpunk, because i don't have the system specs for a modern style browser.

    In other words, I need an old Search engine, not a new browser

  • Lite.duckduckgo.com is what I've been using, but the issue isn't the interface its the search results.

    While anything more than basic HTML is gonna be a non-starter for my browsers, the actual issue here is quality of results.

    Fair enough, in that case using an HTML search engine for Links that is of any actual good quality nowadays is something I am unaware of.

  • I've been a DDG Stan for years but after doing some research on freeBSD kernel modification I've realized just how bad the AI SLOP articles have become, and they're doing nothing to filter them out. Lately it seems every result is either a nuked reddit thread, or an LLM produced static page that almost is convincing enough to be a real person (if it weren't confidently producing advice for Linux on a page claiming to be for freeBSD).

    I do most of my browsing in Links and Offpunk, so HTML only is highly preferred, no JavaScript, as it is non-functional in my browsers of choice.

    The engines don't necessarily need to be clearweb, I'm down to clown with Gemini, Gopher, i2p... I'd prefer against TOR but if its the only place to find a decent search engine I'll use it.

    Edit: I said browser instead of search engine

    Kagi. But it's not free