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Operation Narnia: Iran’s nuclear scientists reportedly killed simultaneously using special weapon

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  • Typically, no one wants to die for stupid shit, especially when they are in the wrong. But when there is no consequences such as dying, a.k.a no nukes, why not go to war and take everything? There's no morals between countries...unless enforced by nukes.

    This is why I'm pro nuclear armament of all countries.

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    vsauce music kicks in

    or does it?

  • It got more legal a few years ago, I think. Not explicitly "made legal", but the legal foundations have been eroded. I.e. if you can expect to get away with something it is legal in a very real sense.

    It's always been practically legal for empires like the US, Russia, China to commit any atrocities in weak countries, More and more countries are seeing how much they can get away with.

    Netanyahu tested the limits over and over and saw there were really quite few legal limits. With Gaza, he saw the limits didn't actually exist at all.

  • Yes, because iran is as bad in one single way as the zionists, they're also as bad in all the other ways.

    Like how im a really shitty painter, so therefore im exactly as bad as hitler in everything.

    Im glad you understood precisely what i was saying there. Really helps my faith in humanity.

    Like how im a really shitty painter, so therefore im exactly as bad as hitler in everything.

    If you say so.

  • What is to stop the ultra wealthy from simply each making a million of these AI commanded drones, and just...killing all the poor? ALL of them? ALL OF US?!

    Pretty much this and the answer is nothing. This is the world we have created where people are murdered just because. We are the ultimate terrorist.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

  • because the ultra wealthy can't cook, can't produce the stuff needed to cook, can't build super cars or private jets or build mansions, they can't make the latest high tech gadgets, they can't produce the most stylish of clothes or expensive watches. That's why they keep us around. They need us plebs to make them stuff and produce their wealth to purchase the shit we make.

    This why they are so obsessed with AI. When AI can do whatever they want, the rest of us will be exterminated like pests.

  • Like how im a really shitty painter, so therefore im exactly as bad as hitler in everything.

    If you say so.

    I do. It really sucks. The farts just won't stop. Basically actively shitting myself at all times, like a river. Exactly like Hitler. All because I can't paint.

  • This why they are so obsessed with AI. When AI can do whatever they want, the rest of us will be exterminated like pests.

    Who would've guessed skynet was purposefully created by the wealthy back when T2 came out amongst us general public?

    I was like, "oh that's so eerie" as a youngster. The truth behind this path has, unfortunately, been both more embarrassing and savage.

  • This why they are so obsessed with AI. When AI can do whatever they want, the rest of us will be exterminated like pests.

    At least there's no way they won't turn AI against each other and extinction themselves in the process.

  • It should be normal. People helping an evil state get nukes, deserve to die. Unfortunately what's normal nowadays is sitting around fat and lazy and letting NK become a nuclear power.

    The US gave Israel, an evil state, nuclear weapons. By your logic...

  • But that's it exactly - cluster bombs just fling granades all over a city block at random. It's basically just collateral damage in the hopes of hitting a soft target

    I mean, fuck palantir and I really don't like this tech in general, but blowing up a room or a house is way more precise. You're hitting just what you mean to hit

    And that's what a lot of war crimes come down to - certain weapons are unacceptably imprecise. Which gets into the first rule of war crimes - you're not supposed to attack noncombatants

    Let's not defend cluster bombs just because Israel is going to use this for justification...

    Because of course they will, this whole thing started by blowing up the Iranian negotiator, they're obviously not going to start acting in good faith now

    cluster bombs just fling granades all over a city block at random

    That gave me the mental image of an Age of Empires 2 mangonel.

  • I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.

    There is no "international authority". It's all big stick politics out there. It's like trying to go after a corporation in the US. The "punishments" when they break the law are fines, if that, and any admonishment not to fuck over the same person in the same way again.

    Think about your boss shorting you $100. The "legal" process involves YEARS of waiting for a court date, a labor code interpreted heavily in favor of the employer, and at the end of the day, they get fines and maybe have to pay back what you rightfully earned in the first place.

    Now think about what happens when you steal $100 from work. Immediate police involvement, possible arrest, absolute legal consequences even if you're cleared years later, the presumption of guilt from everyone in society.

    It's even worse on a political stage. Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it's broken. Everyone just waits around until the collective consciousness supports some sort of social consequence on the offender in question. That's not even tying race or religion into the mix, which Israel loves to twist up into their particular brand of nationalism.

    The civil world is simply too polite to call them out for all their shit. It's a whole world full of chickenshit and I am tired of the stink.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    I hope the next missile strike from Iran includes a sneak nuclear missile in testing phase and the test is successful over TEL Aviv.

  • the most dangerous profession in the world has gotta be iranian nuclear scientist.

    They are targeting anyone with a degree in nuclear physics. Someone posted that his colleague was killed and they had nothing to do with the enrichment program. It's murder.

  • This is state sanctioned mass murder. This is state terror attacks across a national border. This is so unethical and obviously illegal, I don't know what else to say about it.

    We need to distance ourselves from Israel. We need to stop giving them weapons. Right now, the taxes I pay go partially to arming them, I am partially responsible, and this is not "ok". I do not want to be doing this, I never wanted this...

    Just to play devils advocate, what circumstances is it legitimate for Israel to attack Iran?

  • Since when is it legal to kill civilian scientists in another country?

    Civilian nuclear scientists working in enrichment are not protected by the Geneva convention. Technically it is legal to kill them when engaged in warfare.

    1. Why is it ok for them to assassinate civilians?

    It's not just their intended targets, either. Plenty of completely unrelated civilians have been killed in the crossfire.

  • The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.

    The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.

    The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.

    The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.

    Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.

    Just when I feel like dystopian news can't really disturb me anymore...

    Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all...

    How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:

    A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target's family, if not everyone in the apartment building.

    Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.

    I wonder how many civilians Israel killed in the process. It's probably a lot more than 0.

  • There we again with the israel has superior inteligence that can't never make mistakes bs.

    Israel has many impressive operations but it doesn't mean everything bad happen in israel is just according to a plan

    Pretty sure there were reputable news articles right after Oct 7th that said that Israel's intelligence was basically aware but decided to ignore it/dismiss it. So in this case they willfully ignored it for some reason, I wonder why..

  • Just to play devils advocate, what circumstances is it legitimate for Israel to attack Iran?

    Yeah, that's cool.

    Well I guess my opinion is that it's essentially never "legitimate" to be the aggressor. Determining which party is the aggressor can sometimes be complicated, but it often boils down to this: which party is crossing the border?

    In this case, I'm sure many would say that Iran took the first aggressive action by pursuing a nuclear program, but I have a few issues with that. First, Israel already has nuclear weapons, so surely that is an earlier provocation. Secondly, Iran still isn't crossing the border, Israel was first to pull the trigger, and they pulled a lot of triggers (in Iranian territory). And finally, Israel and Iran have been in the process of forging nuclear treaties many times now, and nearly every time Israel has sabotaged the talks with provocative, often military actions, or they simply left the table - it seems clear to me that Israel does not want a nuclear deal, they will not accept any kind of compromise.

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    Same, especially when searching technical or niche topics. Since there aren't a ton of results specific to the topic, mostly semi-related results will appear in the first page or two of a regular (non-Gemini) Google search, just due to the higher popularity of those webpages compared to the relevant webpages. Even the relevant webpages will have lots of non-relevant or semi-relevant information surrounding the answer I'm looking for. I don't know enough about it to be sure, but Gemini is probably just scraping a handful of websites on the first page, and since most of those are only semi-related, the resulting summary is a classic example of garbage in, garbage out. I also think there's probably something in the code that looks for information that is shared across multiple sources and prioritizing that over something that's only on one particular page (possibly the sole result with the information you need). Then, it phrases the summary as a direct answer to your query, misrepresenting the actual information on the pages they scraped. At least Gemini gives sources, I guess. The thing that gets on my nerves the most is how often I see people quote the summary as proof of something without checking the sources. It was bad before the rollout of Gemini, but at least back then Google was mostly scraping text and presenting it with little modification, along with a direct link to the webpage. Now, it's an LLM generating text phrased as a direct answer to a question (that was also AI-generated from your search query) using AI-summarized data points scraped from multiple webpages. It's obfuscating the source material further, but I also can't help but feel like it exposes a little of the behind-the-scenes fuckery Google has been doing for years before Gemini. How it bastardizes your query by interpreting it into a question, and then prioritizes homogeneous results that agree on the "answer" to your "question". For years they've been doing this to a certain extent, they just didn't share how they interpreted your query.
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    I spent way too long researching the morning. That industry implies a much greater population that is attracted to children. Things get more nuanced. People are attracted to different stages, like prebubesant, early adolescence, and mid to late adolescence. It seems like an important distinction because this is a common mental disorder. I was ready to write this comment about my fear that there's a bunch of evil pedophiles living among us who are simply deterred by legal or social pressures. It seems more like the extreme stigma of pedophilia has prevented individuals from seeking assistance and has resulted in more child sexual abuse. This sort of disorder can be caused by experiencing this abuse at a younger age. When I was religious, we worked closely with an organization to help victims of trafficking. We had their stories. They entered our lives. I took care of some of these kids. As a victim of sexual abuse when I was kid, I had a hatred for these kinds of people. I feel like my brain is melting seeing how there is a high chance of people in my life being attracted to children. This isn't really to justify the industry. I'm just realizing that general harassing people openly about it might not be helping the situation.
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    If you use LLMs like they should be, i.e. as autocomplete, they're helpful. Classic autocomplete can't see me type "import" and correctly guess that I want to import a file that I just created, but Copilot can. You shouldn't expect it to understand code, but it can type more quickly than you and plug the right things in more often than not.
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    Is that useful for completing tasks?
  • We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink

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    Are you for real? Can you guess how many Saturn V rockets ended up exploding throughout the first mission to put man on the moon? Trick question, the answer was ZERO. The Saturn V program had completed more successful milestones in 1 year than SpaceX has managed in 5 year. SpaceX has been late on every single deliverable to NASA. They were supposed to show they can reliably perform the propellant transfer for the NASA contract, and instead Musk focused on testing the deployment of starlink satellites, which of course failed. And now they lost one more on the pad getting fueled up. It's complete incompetence, which is the one thing Musk can guarantee
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    That update though: "... completely removed..." I assume this is because someone at Meta realized this was a huge breach of trust, and likely quite illegal. Edit: I read somewhere that they're just being cautious about Google Play terms of service. That feels worse.
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    i can this for essay writing, prior to AI people would use prompts and templates of the same exact subject and work from there. and we hear the ODD situation where someone hired another person to do all the writing for them all the way to grad school( this is just as bad as chatgpt) you will get caught in grad school or during your job interview. might be different for specific questions in stem where the answer is more abstract,