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Tesla confirms it has given up on its Cybertruck range extender to achieve promised range

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  • Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.

    The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.

    Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.

    The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.

    Archive link: https://archive.is/CGbaE

    "Thanks for all the $16k loans at 0% shmucks. We've kept the interest we made while rates have been up and now you can have it back while they're dropping. Of course, your money is now worth less than it was when you gave it to us during high inflation. Suck it losers. Love, T E S L A"

    EDIT: deposit was $150. Still shitty but not the same impact

  • Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.

    The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.

    Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.

    The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.

    Archive link: https://archive.is/CGbaE

    The dual motor was originally announced to be US$39,900. It is lies all the way down at Tesla.

  • The dual motor was originally announced to be US$39,900. It is lies all the way down at Tesla.

    I was seriously considering it back then. My wife hated the look and wouldn't let me even consider it, but as someone who likes Back to the Future and Tron, I didn't hate the aesthetic, though it took some getting used to. And I want a comfortably large EV (my compact is too small for my old bones) with 500 miles to avoid range anxiety. A 100 mile distance in the middle of a midwestern winter without a charger at the other end is going to require 500 miles of range to get back home due to heating the battery and cabin, and driving at 80mph.

    I wouldn't say bullet dodged because I was never really close to getting one, but charging three times the price for only 60% range compared to that announcement is fucking insane.

  • I was seriously considering it back then. My wife hated the look and wouldn't let me even consider it, but as someone who likes Back to the Future and Tron, I didn't hate the aesthetic, though it took some getting used to. And I want a comfortably large EV (my compact is too small for my old bones) with 500 miles to avoid range anxiety. A 100 mile distance in the middle of a midwestern winter without a charger at the other end is going to require 500 miles of range to get back home due to heating the battery and cabin, and driving at 80mph.

    I wouldn't say bullet dodged because I was never really close to getting one, but charging three times the price for only 60% range compared to that announcement is fucking insane.

    How good was that job for you to be commuting for 2+ hours a day?

  • How good was that job for you to be commuting for 2+ hours a day?

    I was transitioning from being a lotus notes developer to a java developer and I was moving back home to the Midwest from DC. As that job took a chance on me and allowed both, it was a really good fucking job for the moment. It eventually transitioned to hybrid.

    We had planned to move to the area but couldn't find a place we liked and kept living with my folks until I just said fuck it and we bought a house near them instead and I dealt with the commute. Then Covid hit and I got laid off on my two year anniversary.

    Now, my commute is about 70 miles one way 1-2 times per week. That's a pretty typical drive for me. My kids also live kinda near where I work so even if it weren't for commuting, I'd still make that drive quite often.

  • I was transitioning from being a lotus notes developer to a java developer and I was moving back home to the Midwest from DC. As that job took a chance on me and allowed both, it was a really good fucking job for the moment. It eventually transitioned to hybrid.

    We had planned to move to the area but couldn't find a place we liked and kept living with my folks until I just said fuck it and we bought a house near them instead and I dealt with the commute. Then Covid hit and I got laid off on my two year anniversary.

    Now, my commute is about 70 miles one way 1-2 times per week. That's a pretty typical drive for me. My kids also live kinda near where I work so even if it weren't for commuting, I'd still make that drive quite often.

    Now that's dedication. I'd probably have driven myself into a ditch by the 3rd month of that (but I haaaate driving)

  • "Thanks for all the $16k loans at 0% shmucks. We've kept the interest we made while rates have been up and now you can have it back while they're dropping. Of course, your money is now worth less than it was when you gave it to us during high inflation. Suck it losers. Love, T E S L A"

    EDIT: deposit was $150. Still shitty but not the same impact

    The deposit for a cyberstuck was $150.
    The package was valued at $16k.

    Being happy about lies being exposed is good, but spreading a false narrative about it is bad.

  • Now that's dedication. I'd probably have driven myself into a ditch by the 3rd month of that (but I haaaate driving)

    I don't mind driving as long as I'm not sitting in traffic. Which is why I'm in the Midwest making far less money than I could on either coast. My commute times were just as long near DC with a third of the miles traveled. There was the commuter train but that was just a different kind of stress.

  • Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.

    The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.

    Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.

    The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.

    Archive link: https://archive.is/CGbaE

    Ima be honest, I like the design of this thing. I’m big into brutalism and the Delorean is one of my favorite car designs of all time. I was really hoping this would be good, but it has turned out to be one of the worst products in recent history in any category. It’s up there with the humane pin.

    It makes me a little bit sad because I will never be able to live out my cyberpunk fantasy of driving an electric truck made out of bare metal manufactured by a technofascist corporation.

  • The deposit for a cyberstuck was $150.
    The package was valued at $16k.

    Being happy about lies being exposed is good, but spreading a false narrative about it is bad.

    Ah I misread this

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    You are correct. People make mistakes, not everything is "a narrative".

  • Ima be honest, I like the design of this thing. I’m big into brutalism and the Delorean is one of my favorite car designs of all time. I was really hoping this would be good, but it has turned out to be one of the worst products in recent history in any category. It’s up there with the humane pin.

    It makes me a little bit sad because I will never be able to live out my cyberpunk fantasy of driving an electric truck made out of bare metal manufactured by a technofascist corporation.

    I hope the N Vision 74 will one day make it onto the streets

  • I hope the N Vision 74 will one day make it onto the streets

    hydrogen-powered high performance.

    It will literally never make it onto the streets in the US.

  • Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.

    The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.

    Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.

    The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.

    Archive link: https://archive.is/CGbaE

    How hard can it be to produce a simple battery pack, for a company that is in the business of designing and producing battery packs no less...

  • Tesla has confirmed it has given up on plans to make a Cybertruck range extender to achieve the range it originally promised on the electric pickup truck.

    It started refunding deposits for the $16,000 extra battery pack.

    When Tesla unveiled the production version of the Cybertruck in late 2023, two main disappointments were the price and the range.

    The tri-motor version, the most popular in reservation tallies before production, was supposed to have over 500 miles of range and start at $70,000.

    Tesla now sells the tri-motor Cybertruck for $100,000 and only has a range of 320 miles.

    The dual-motor Cybertruck was supposed to cost $50,000 and have over 300 miles of range. In reality, it starts at $80,000 and has 325 miles of range.

    Archive link: https://archive.is/CGbaE

    Why the third motor? One for each of the front wheels and one for the rear?

  • How hard can it be to produce a simple battery pack, for a company that is in the business of designing and producing battery packs no less...

    Think the end of the article pretty much nails it.

    Tesla needed to install and remove it at a service center. Owners couldn’t remove them themselves. I think it was pretty much dead on arrival at $16,000.

    But I think it could also be as simple as it’s not worth producing due to demand – both due to insufficient people reserving it and not enough Cybertruck buyers to create a market for the range extender.

    Therefore, the range extender is dead for the same reason that the Cybertruck RWD now has the same battery pack as the AWD instead of a smaller pack for less money: the Cybertruck is a commercial flop, and it’s not a high-volume program enough to justify making several battery pack sizes, including a removable one.

  • Why the third motor? One for each of the front wheels and one for the rear?

    Two in the back, one in the front.
    There's also a two and four motor version.

  • The dual motor was originally announced to be US$39,900. It is lies all the way down at Tesla.

    The dual motor was originally announced at 50k

    Single motor rear-wheel drive with 250 miles of range, 7,500-pound towing capacity, and 0–60 mph capabilities in under 6.5 seconds, for $39,900
    
    Dual motor all-wheel drive with 300 miles of range, 10,000-pound towing capacity, and 0–60 mph in under 4.5 seconds for $49,900
    
  • Two in the back, one in the front.
    There's also a two and four motor version.

    That makes even less sense. Distributing mechanical power on non steering wheels is easy, but for steering wheels requires a more complex and expensive coupling, as well as power losses. Just... why?

  • That makes even less sense. Distributing mechanical power on non steering wheels is easy, but for steering wheels requires a more complex and expensive coupling, as well as power losses. Just... why?

    I believe the three motor versions is to add extra power under load to the rear wheels. (A weight/power/range compromise between the 4 and 2 motor versions).

    The motors are essentially in line with the wheels (they have gearing but it's minimal and internal to the motor housing, not attached like an automatic transmission would be, if that makes sense.)

    The "three motor" design is just the single motor design up front and the dual motor design in the back.

    I'm not sure if they ever actually released the single motor version though.

  • That makes even less sense. Distributing mechanical power on non steering wheels is easy, but for steering wheels requires a more complex and expensive coupling, as well as power losses. Just... why?

    How do you figure dual front motors would alleviate any of what you said a front diff would need? Dual front motors will still be rigidly mounted to the chassis, requiring flexible couplings. The rear is also independent, requiring the same flexible couplings whether it's a diff or motors. CV axles all around. Non-steer wheels still have vertical travel from the suspension.

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