Linus Torvalds and Bill Gates Meet for the First Time Ever
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Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds have apparently never met in person before, despite their pseudo-rivalry.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:35 zuletzt editiert vonBoth Torvalds and Gates are nerds... Gates decided to monetize it and Torvalds decided to give it away.
But without Microsoft's "PC on every desktop" vision for the '90s, we may not have seen such an increased demand for server infrastructure which is all running the Linux kernel now.
Arguably Torvalds' strategy had a greater impact than Gates because now many of us carry his kernel in our pocket. But I think both needed each other to get where we are today.
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Torvalds is still very active on the Linux kernel. As far as I know, he's in charge of it and makes major decisions about its direction.
Bill Gates retired from Microsoft in 2008.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 02:41 zuletzt editiert vonLinus still approves the changes in the kernel. His main baby for the past 15 years or so has been GIT.
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That means there are highschool seniors who weren't even alive while Bill Gates was at Microsoft. Interns might not even know who he is.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:02 zuletzt editiert vonDEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS
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Making money/influence. It's such a scam his "Bill and Melinda Charity" (no taxes on charities).
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:03 zuletzt editiert vonSearch the web for “polio”
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Both Torvalds and Gates are nerds... Gates decided to monetize it and Torvalds decided to give it away.
But without Microsoft's "PC on every desktop" vision for the '90s, we may not have seen such an increased demand for server infrastructure which is all running the Linux kernel now.
Arguably Torvalds' strategy had a greater impact than Gates because now many of us carry his kernel in our pocket. But I think both needed each other to get where we are today.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:18 zuletzt editiert vonI've said this before here, but techy people vastly overestimate both the ability and the patience of the typical user, and it's the reason so few people use FOSS products.
Products from big tech aimed at private individuals are designed to be as simple to use as possible, which is why they're so popular.
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Linus still approves the changes in the kernel. His main baby for the past 15 years or so has been GIT.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:33 zuletzt editiert vonI think he maintained git at its inception for like 6 months and then passed it off to someone else, but I could be completely mistaken.
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I've said this before here, but techy people vastly overestimate both the ability and the patience of the typical user, and it's the reason so few people use FOSS products.
Products from big tech aimed at private individuals are designed to be as simple to use as possible, which is why they're so popular.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:39 zuletzt editiert vonBig tech designing their products to be overly simple is one of the driving forces behind the average user having poor patience and aptitude for tech.
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Bill Gates and Linus Torvalds have apparently never met in person before, despite their pseudo-rivalry.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 03:54 zuletzt editiert vonTop comment on that page is perfect:
One wrote their own operating system incorporating others ideas on operating systems, the other's mom bought theirs.
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I've said this before here, but techy people vastly overestimate both the ability and the patience of the typical user, and it's the reason so few people use FOSS products.
Products from big tech aimed at private individuals are designed to be as simple to use as possible, which is why they're so popular.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:00 zuletzt editiert vonWhat about the boat loads of marketing - ads - aimed at making you believe those proprietary programs are the best? Clearly you fell for it.
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Top comment on that page is perfect:
One wrote their own operating system incorporating others ideas on operating systems, the other's mom bought theirs.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:02 zuletzt editiert vonMommy was one of the higher ups at IBM. Gates got most of it just handed to him. They are not the same.
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Big tech designing their products to be overly simple is one of the driving forces behind the average user having poor patience and aptitude for tech.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:03 zuletzt editiert vonChrist this is such a Lemmy take.
The other option is users just not using tech at all.
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What about the boat loads of marketing - ads - aimed at making you believe those proprietary programs are the best? Clearly you fell for it.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:06 zuletzt editiert vonI've used my share of free software. Some of it worked well, but it always felt clunky, and just never as straightforward to use as a paid product.
But sure, I couldn't possibly have reached that conclusion on my own, it's obviously the marketing.
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schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:07 zuletzt editiert von
Barf. Or maybe, just maybe, we have other shit to do rather than spend hours trying to figure out how to do one thing in Gimp. It's great that YOU'RE passionate about tech. Some of us have other hobbies. Imagine that holy shit
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I said in another thread about this, he looks like an older Tom Scott.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:12 zuletzt editiert vonDown to the red shirt.
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Barf. Or maybe, just maybe, we have other shit to do rather than spend hours trying to figure out how to do one thing in Gimp. It's great that YOU'RE passionate about tech. Some of us have other hobbies. Imagine that holy shit
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:14 zuletzt editiert vonThat really nails it, I think. Tech is a hobby for some, a means to an end for the vast majority.
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I've used my share of free software. Some of it worked well, but it always felt clunky, and just never as straightforward to use as a paid product.
But sure, I couldn't possibly have reached that conclusion on my own, it's obviously the marketing.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 04:54 zuletzt editiert vonSounds like you're cherry picking both; I've seen plenty of garbage that costs money as well.
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Down to the red shirt.
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:17 zuletzt editiert vonAnd hoodie!
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Barf. Or maybe, just maybe, we have other shit to do rather than spend hours trying to figure out how to do one thing in Gimp. It's great that YOU'RE passionate about tech. Some of us have other hobbies. Imagine that holy shit
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:19 zuletzt editiert vonYou should not expect to use a tool (edit: competently) without spending time learning how to use it. Photoshop has a learning curve too, even if it's an easier one.
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Barf. Or maybe, just maybe, we have other shit to do rather than spend hours trying to figure out how to do one thing in Gimp. It's great that YOU'RE passionate about tech. Some of us have other hobbies. Imagine that holy shit
schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:28 zuletzt editiert vonBuddy, if I open Photoshop it's gonna take me hours to learn how to do one thing too, what a horrible example lmao. There's like so many easy slam dunks you could've said too.
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schrieb am 23. Juni 2025, 05:36 zuletzt editiert von
No, it's not. We have other shit to do and very limited quality time.
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