ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it
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It makes me suspect they’re not talking about the stock systems OEMs ship.
The developers of GrapheneOS, an independent, security-oriented Android distribution are probably not only talking about stock OEM Android. What they're saying is true about stock OEM android though.
That's a separate issue from whether users are forced to get all their software from a specific source, which is also separate from whether users will actually use other sources when given the option.
On Android, developers can offer users a way to install an app that isn't easily traced to their identity and on iOS they can't. Furthermore, an Android app can be both on the Play store and available from other sources; there's no exclusivity.
You got that "tracked to their identity" opposite around.
The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets "found" the data about the user/owner is an open book. -
You don't even need to audit a closed source app to know that Apple knows which devices its sending pushes to. It works because they know.
And how would they know that?
That would mean push notifications would go via an Apple Server. Wich
a) makes no sense
b) can be masquerade so that the server does not know who talks to whom
c) the meta information and the notification can be deleted timelyOn the other hand, I guess most Android "low level" peer to peer apps go via FireBase?
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Stephen Miller is basically a Nazi
Stephen Miller is exactly a Nazi
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"He's giving a message to criminals where our federal officers are," Bondi said. "...we are looking at it, we are looking at him, and he better watch out, because that's not a protected speech. That is threatening the lives of our law enforcement officers throughout this country."'
Actually, I believe it is protected speech. There are apps that let people know where speed traps are. You mean it's not constitutionally protected to say to someone "hey, did you see the cop down on the corner?" Ridiculous. Of course, what she means to say is that the constitution doesn't matter and laws are made up now, and they're just going to do whatever the fuck they want. They're just not quuuuuite ready to go through the trouble of literally setting the constitution on fire yet.
It is definitely not constitutional protected free speech.
Because constitution has nothing to say in this matter.
On the other hand there is no law restricting such speech either.
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Federation is an overly complicated solution it's not required. It also wouldn't actually help, they can still take it off the app store there'd be another one but they would just play whack-a-mole and you can achieve the same thing with open source.
The best bet would be to have the database hosted outside the US and just have apps that pull the data from an API. There's no need for the app itself to store the data in fact that's a really stupid way to do it. You could federate it if you wanted but honestly that's probably unnecessary
Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius ... how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?
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You got that "tracked to their identity" opposite around.
The reason why there is no Android App is, if the phone gets "found" the data about the user/owner is an open book.This is not one of the claims made by the ICEBlock developers; their claims are only to do with notifications.
If you want to claim that a locked Android device is substantially easier for law enforcement to break in to than a locked iPhone, please cite up-to-date (from 2025) sources.
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This is not true.
https://bsky.app/profile/grapheneos.org/post/3lt2prfb2vk2rWell, who knows what is true and what not.
I never knew that Push Notifications go via Apple, and not via the network operator.
Definitely wrong is GraphenOS's claim that Android does not allow access to the device id.
Of course it does. For what reason would the ID exist if it does not?
No idea if you need it for a FB message/notification though. -
And how would they know that?
That would mean push notifications would go via an Apple Server. Wich
a) makes no sense
b) can be masquerade so that the server does not know who talks to whom
c) the meta information and the notification can be deleted timelyOn the other hand, I guess most Android "low level" peer to peer apps go via FireBase?
All push notifications go through APNS on apple. That's Apple Push Notifications Service.
APNS requires the device to authenticate with it and can uniquely identify the device by an id. Its how it sends messages to devices.
Firebase cloud messaging acts the same way for true push notifications.
You don't need to audit a device using APNS or FCM on Android to know that it is not anonymous.
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Well, who knows what is true and what not.
I never knew that Push Notifications go via Apple, and not via the network operator.
Definitely wrong is GraphenOS's claim that Android does not allow access to the device id.
Of course it does. For what reason would the ID exist if it does not?
No idea if you need it for a FB message/notification though.who knows what is true and what not.
Lots of people do.
Definitely wrong is GraphenOS's claim that Android does not allow access to the device id.
That's not what it says.
No idea if you need it for a FB message/notification though.
There has to be a way for Google/Apple to know which device to send the notif to.
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ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it
The application, which allows users to add a pin on a map to show where ICE agents have recently been spotted, has climbed to the to the top of the App Store charts.
Engadget (www.engadget.com)
Only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.
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ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it
The application, which allows users to add a pin on a map to show where ICE agents have recently been spotted, has climbed to the to the top of the App Store charts.
Engadget (www.engadget.com)
Did anyone else notice that you couldn't use this on an Android device because it it may put the people who use it at risk?For shame AndroidDeveloper may not actually understand how phones work
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She said that there's been a 500 percent increase against ICE agents who are just "trying to do their jobs and remove public safety threats from... communities."
Exactly what the Nazis who ran extermination camps claimed.
Well, when you kidnap people in the street assaults against you can happen.
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It is definitely not constitutional protected free speech.
Because constitution has nothing to say in this matter.
On the other hand there is no law restricting such speech either.
Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution, would be tricky however.Making a law against it, that is valid under the constitution...
The part that says...
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assem- ble, and to petition the Government for a re- dress of grievances.
Make a law against the part that says not to make a law against it?
I mean, it's idiotic and on message for Trump.
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Facepalm. If the App does not store the data in a 5 mile radius ... how do you at least see the latest status when the power and internet is down?
I can't tell if you're serious or not.
If the internet is down then I don't have access to the app store. Also if the internet's down then the data is going to be out of date almost immediately anyway so any cached version would be useless.
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ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it
The application, which allows users to add a pin on a map to show where ICE agents have recently been spotted, has climbed to the to the top of the App Store charts.
Engadget (www.engadget.com)
These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.
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ICEBlock climbs to the top of the App Store charts after officials slam it
The application, which allows users to add a pin on a map to show where ICE agents have recently been spotted, has climbed to the to the top of the App Store charts.
Engadget (www.engadget.com)
Yeah, but I think it's also because Republicans are downloading it and using it to spread fake ice raid claims, to confuse. So, I don't think the numbers are necessarily because people hate ice or whatever.
Guess we'll see.
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These dumb fuckers STILL haven’t figured out the Streisand effect.
Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.
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Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.
There are easier ways to get that data without having to trick people into downloading an app. Trump has palantir and Israel in his pocket. He already knows where they all are. The app just lets us all know where they are.
Trump doesn’t like playing a fair game because he can’t win those.
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Who owns the app that gets the location data of every illegal immigrant? Maye they do know the Streisand effect.
While you're right to be skeptical, if they just wanted to collect data they would have an Android version. And their stated reason for not supporting it, is that push notifications on Android would require them to at store device-IDs, which they want to avoid for privacy reasons and being vulnerable to subpoenas.
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