With everything he does the issue is the implementation. Deport criminal aliens? I'm all for it, but most of the deportees have no criminal record or they accuse them of crimes as if it's the same thing as a conviction.

Part of Trump's grand plan is to make federal elections span only a single day. So maybe you check your status the day before and everything is fine, but the day of voting a glitch in the system says it can't verify your citizenship. That's it! No votes for you this year!

Citizenship is already required to vote in state and federal elections.

Then you should have no problem with this because it won't stop anyone who is allowed to vote from voting, will it?

Everyone who votes absolutely should be checked to see if they are allowed to vote by citizenship. The only reason to disagree with this would be if you want non-citizens to vote in elections that they're not supposed to.

I think in most cases where this administration seems to have a good idea it's important to remember that it's likely designed to keep them in power.

A national database that the trump admin controls will 100% be exploited for their own gain, just like every other aspect of government is being exploited for their gain now.

What happens if someone is illegitimately removed from this database? How can you show whether it was a glitch, or deliberate? How do you know if the information they have about you is even right, or get it changed if you need to? Where's the accountability?

See the UK Post Office accounting scandal, in which a persistent computer error went unfixed for decades and caused hundreds of post office employees to be fired and dragged through courts for corruption that never happened. A good chunk of them committed suicide. The government and the software company both knew about the bug causing the issue, too, but prosecutions continued. "If the computer says it, it must be right", sort of danger.

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The Trump administration has, for the first time ever, built a searchable national citizenship data system.

The tool, which is being rolled out in phases, is designed to be used by state and local election officials to give them an easier way to ensure only citizens are voting. But it was developed rapidly without a public process, and some of those officials are already worrying about what else it could be used for.

NPR is the first news organization to report the details of the new system.

For decades, voting officials have noted that there was no national citizenship list to compare their state lists to, so to verify citizenship for their voters, they either needed to ask people to provide a birth certificate or a passport — something that could disenfranchise millions — or use a complex patchwork of disparate data sources.

The Trump administration has, for the first time ever, built a searchable national citizenship data system.

The tool, which is being rolled out in phases, is designed to be used by state and local election officials to give them an easier way to ensure only citizens are voting. But it was developed rapidly without a public process, and some of those officials are already worrying about what else it could be used for.

NPR is the first news organization to report the details of the new system.

For decades, voting officials have noted that there was no national citizenship list to compare their state lists to, so to verify citizenship for their voters, they either needed to ask people to provide a birth certificate or a passport — something that could disenfranchise millions — or use a complex patchwork of disparate data sources.

Also outside the US, and the "problem" is that people - pretty much exclusively democrat voters - want illegal immigrants to be able to vote, or at least don't want their illegal votes to not be counted, because they overwhelmingly vote Democrat since the Democrats are the ones importing them and giving them freebies.

The goal is to suppress non-white voting by invalidating citizenships for people MAGA considers “foreigners”.

No, the goal is to stop illegal immigrants crossing the border into america, giving birth, and then never leaving because their kid is a US citizen.

Deport criminal aliens? I’m all for it, but most of the deportees have no criminal record or they accuse them of crimes as if it’s the same thing as a conviction.

Illegal immigration is a crime.

A national database that the trump admin controls

But if/when the Democrats win it will be under their "control".

What happens if someone is illegitimately removed from this database? How can you show whether it was a glitch, or deliberate? How do you know if the information they have about you is even right, or get it changed if you need to? Where’s the accountability?

Database logs and procedural logs is how you know.

If you move state etc you would update your details with the government, just like you already should be doing.

The Trump administration has, for the first time ever, built a searchable national citizenship data system.

The tool, which is being rolled out in phases, is designed to be used by state and local election officials to give them an easier way to ensure only citizens are voting. But it was developed rapidly without a public process, and some of those officials are already worrying about what else it could be used for.

NPR is the first news organization to report the details of the new system.

For decades, voting officials have noted that there was no national citizenship list to compare their state lists to, so to verify citizenship for their voters, they either needed to ask people to provide a birth certificate or a passport — something that could disenfranchise millions — or use a complex patchwork of disparate data sources.

The Trump administration has, for the first time ever, built a searchable national citizenship data system.

The tool, which is being rolled out in phases, is designed to be used by state and local election officials to give them an easier way to ensure only citizens are voting. But it was developed rapidly without a public process, and some of those officials are already worrying about what else it could be used for.

NPR is the first news organization to report the details of the new system.

For decades, voting officials have noted that there was no national citizenship list to compare their state lists to, so to verify citizenship for their voters, they either needed to ask people to provide a birth certificate or a passport — something that could disenfranchise millions — or use a complex patchwork of disparate data sources.

With everything he does the issue is the implementation. Deport criminal aliens? I'm all for it, but most of the deportees have no criminal record or they accuse them of crimes as if it's the same thing as a conviction.

Part of Trump's grand plan is to make federal elections span only a single day. So maybe you check your status the day before and everything is fine, but the day of voting a glitch in the system says it can't verify your citizenship. That's it! No votes for you this year!

What happens if someone is illegitimately removed from this database? How can you show whether it was a glitch, or deliberate? How do you know if the information they have about you is even right, or get it changed if you need to? Where's the accountability?

See the UK Post Office accounting scandal, in which a persistent computer error went unfixed for decades and caused hundreds of post office employees to be fired and dragged through courts for corruption that never happened. A good chunk of them committed suicide. The government and the software company both knew about the bug causing the issue, too, but prosecutions continued. "If the computer says it, it must be right", sort of danger.

Citizenship is already required to vote in state and federal elections.

Then you should have no problem with this because it won't stop anyone who is allowed to vote from voting, will it?

Everyone who votes absolutely should be checked to see if they are allowed to vote by citizenship. The only reason to disagree with this would be if you want non-citizens to vote in elections that they're not supposed to.

There was talk of establishing a national ID in the 90s but republicans revolted saying it would be the number of the beast. I guess their principles on the matter depend on whether the beast in question is Trump or Clinton. There would definitely be scope creep for such an ID, much like the SSN. I say just make it a national ID and eliminate the need to register to vote.

"illegitimately" is the key word there. I'm not interested in what you think happens if everything is working as intended, or your poor reading comprehension. F-, rewrite your answer and address the question or you'll fail the class and be held back a grade.

Actually it's a civil offense akin to a parking ticket which is separate from criminal charges.