The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
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Yeah, that's weird.
The reason iPhones are impractical to make in the US has nothing to do with anatomy or genetics, it's purely labor costs. You can hire someone to work for very little and for very long in China, you can't do that in the US. That's it. That's the only reason.
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 19:40 zuletzt editiert von iopq@lemmy.world 6. Feb. 2025, 20:35Chinese wages are not actually that low. In Beijing minimum wage is ¥26.4 which is $3.66
US federal minimum wage is $7.25
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Chinese wages are not actually that low. In Beijing minimum wage is ¥26.4 which is $3.66
US federal minimum wage is $7.25
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 20:13 zuletzt editiert vonYet for these types of jobs, nobody gets paid minimum wage, even $15/hr is probably low. What is the typical Chinese employee making for this type of work?
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The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
The New York Times published an article with a strange and bigoted claim about Asian women and manufacturing at Apple.
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schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 20:28 zuletzt editiert vonWait, wait, I've seen this one!
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schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 21:03 zuletzt editiert vonTerrible journalism. The author entirely neglects the fact that lemurs possess fingers even smaller than those of Chinese women. Why not have lemurs manufacture iPhones, given the particular daintiness of their digits? A true investigative journalist wouldn't leave such crucial avenues of inquiry unexplored.
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"Young Chinese women have small fingers," the article reads, "and that has made them a valuable contributor to iPhone production because they are more nimble at installing screws and other miniature parts in the small device, supply chain experts said."
Fucking what? Who are these supply chain experts? Did you pull them out of your ass?
This reads like AI. I've lost any speck of respect I still had for NYT.
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 21:06 zuletzt editiert vonYou still had respect for it? It's owned by and has been pushing Bezo's agenda for ages now
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You still had respect for it? It's owned by and has been pushing Bezo's agenda for ages now
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 21:20 zuletzt editiert vonBezos owns the Washington Post not the NYT.
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So 20-25 years from now we can be in the same place?
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 21:36 zuletzt editiert vonWe? Not unless the entire government decided to fundamentally change overnight. The US government would never tell conglomerates what to do, it takes it's orders from them.
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Wasn't this also the argument for child labor? "Small children can fit into tight spaces easier, lets use them to unjam dangerous machinery"
schrieb am 27. Mai 2025, 22:20 zuletzt editiert vonChina use child labor, so……
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Wait, wait, I've seen this one!
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 00:17 zuletzt editiert vonapplies Netherlands flag sticker to 8 ft. ceiling by extending arm and making small hop
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Alright you hooked me, I want to hear about the gun slinging interviewer.
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 00:58 zuletzt editiert vonThe year is 1999. The tech scene, where I did most of my marketing work at the time, is collapsing in Ottawa. I'm getting tired of the disrespect I doubly get for a) not being a techie, and b) not being male. I decide to go for the money instead.
A company in Houston is hiring and I get headhunted. The salary hinted at is almost double what I'm making now, plus some very generous bonus and stock schemes. I get flown down to Houston, kept in a really nice hotel room for two days as I go through several interviews with different departments and managers. When I'm finished and on the flight back home, I have my pick of four jobs. Feels good, right? To be wanted that much?
Yeah, except that the final interview had already settled which I'd take: none.
Before that final interview I'd already had a few red flags:
- Houston is a lovely city and far more cosmopolitan than I'd imagined I'd ever find in Texas, of all places. But ... there's still billboards left, right, and centre for churches, religious radio stations, etc. It may be surface cosmopolitan, but that general feel of fundamentalist Christianity is everywhere.
- The salary is high but digging into the paperwork for the proffered health plan leads me to believe that if I have any kind of a major health problem or accident or the like I'm not going to be seeing the benefits of that for long.
- As cosmopolitan as Houston itself looked, the company was whiter than white.
None of these was a showstopper. Hell, all three were just a mark in the "minus" column of my PMI¹ analysis and had not yet outweighed the "plus" column.
But that final job interview... Yeah.
I was talking to the final hiring manager (the pattern was in each department first a group interview with HR plus a few potential coworkers, and if I passed, directly with the hiring manager) and I noticed an intriguing sculpture on the shelf behind him. It was a smooth rock (a river-smoothed piece of granite, it looked like) and on it was mounted some pieces of shiny metal with weird dented-in spots that looked half-melted with the metal melting into weirdly-shaped blobs. So I asked about it. I couldn't see how the metal was formed the way it was, melted so it sagged, broke through, and also pooled in the hole.
"Oh, that? That's the platters of a hard drive that failed. I took it to the range and shot it with this."
And he pulls out a revolver from his desk. Nothing special, just a silver .38 special revolver, like the kind cops used to carry. Loaded. He waved the handgun around in ways that would have my father (a retired CWO) leaping across to him and buttstroking him to unconsciousness for the sheer lack of trigger and barrel discipline. I can't get across just how unsafe this guy was being. He was in an office full of people, he was waving around a loaded handgun that he'd taken from his office desk, paying no attention to if the barrel ever pointed at someone or not. I was too stunned to look, but it would not have surprised me to see that he'd placed his finger on the trigger too. This was just reckless.
And. Nobody. Else. Around. Me. Thought. This. Was. Unusual.
In the middle of a job interview, an interviewing manager thought it was OK to pull out a loaded handgun and wave it around. And nobody around him thought it was even slightly off.
That by itself would have been a hard "no" for accepting any kind of a job. I didn't need the other red flags in the slightest. I had four offers in my pocket and my answer to all four was "sorry, I've decided I'm never setting foot on US soil ever again". And I've stuck with it ever since.
¹ de Bono's "Plus/Minus/Interesting" technique.
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Boss I hate to be the one to tell you, but this is exactly what their editorial standards have always been lol
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 01:27 zuletzt editiert vonHuh, didn't realize that NYT was disliked from before only. I thought it was a decent American newspaper. The only other American newspaper I can think of is Washington Post, but that is so capitalist friendly to say the least.
Among overseas newspapers, I had decent idea of UK based ones (looks and judges Sun readers :p) but not otherwise.
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The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
The New York Times published an article with a strange and bigoted claim about Asian women and manufacturing at Apple.
Futurism (futurism.com)
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 03:15 zuletzt editiert vonWait a second:
it’s hard for apple to manufacture devices in a country with robust labor rights.
Robust labor rights? The US?
We have child labor making a comeback here. It’s not that far fetched to imagine children working in hypothetical US factories if things keep going the way they’re going.
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Iqbal Masih
Google this boy if you haven't heard of him everyone. Two adult men assassinated a child for what he had to say
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 03:35 zuletzt editiert vonThis is the darkest thing I've seen today, thanks
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The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
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schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 03:47 zuletzt editiert von carrion0409@lemm.ee 6. Feb. 2025, 20:46I wipe my ass with NYT these days. All they've been publishing is straight garbage
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Wait a second:
it’s hard for apple to manufacture devices in a country with robust labor rights.
Robust labor rights? The US?
We have child labor making a comeback here. It’s not that far fetched to imagine children working in hypothetical US factories if things keep going the way they’re going.
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 03:53 zuletzt editiert vonAfter China and India, yeah, the US has very robust labor laws
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The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
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schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 03:56 zuletzt editiert vonTLDR
"Young Chinese women have small fingers," the article reads, "and that has made them a valuable contributor to iPhone production because they are more nimble at installing screws and other miniature parts in the small device, supply chain experts said." [...]
there doesn't seem to be a lick of evidence [...] that small hands are preferable for manufacturing small devices. The closest thing we could find was a paper that found that surgeons with smaller hands actually had a harder time manipulating dextrous operating tools, which would seem to contradict the NYT's claim that small hands are an advantage for small specialized movements.
(...so should they be hiring big white men instead? Not clear to me how this article thinks that's a rebuttal of the 'race science')
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TLDR
"Young Chinese women have small fingers," the article reads, "and that has made them a valuable contributor to iPhone production because they are more nimble at installing screws and other miniature parts in the small device, supply chain experts said." [...]
there doesn't seem to be a lick of evidence [...] that small hands are preferable for manufacturing small devices. The closest thing we could find was a paper that found that surgeons with smaller hands actually had a harder time manipulating dextrous operating tools, which would seem to contradict the NYT's claim that small hands are an advantage for small specialized movements.
(...so should they be hiring big white men instead? Not clear to me how this article thinks that's a rebuttal of the 'race science')
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 04:06 zuletzt editiert vonI don't really know what I'm talking about nor do I have a horse in this race, but could it be that small handed surgeons struggle with tools because the tools themselves are designed for big hands?
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China use child labor, so……
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 04:08 zuletzt editiert von cyd@lemmy.world 6. Feb. 2025, 20:46Does it? They're a middle-upper income country now, and child labor tends to be an issue at much lower levels of development. Anyway, for the Chinese electronics sector, you're vastly more likely to see humanoid robots than children.
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The New York Times Just Published Some Bizarre Race Science About Asian Women
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schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 04:16 zuletzt editiert vonOkay but what about the Japanese people that have long torsos but very thick muscular short legs? I've noticed that in both men and women. Its counterintuitive for karate for example. Short legs don't help for high kicks and such. Bicycles would be awesome with short powerful legs though. Key cars would fit fine. Anyway its just a stereotype. I don't think all Japanese people have that body shape. I don't think the small hand thing actually helps. Its probably more like the people working tend to be kids maybe? And they want to cover it up or justify it somehow?
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I don't really know what I'm talking about nor do I have a horse in this race, but could it be that small handed surgeons struggle with tools because the tools themselves are designed for big hands?
schrieb am 28. Mai 2025, 04:42 zuletzt editiert vonA valid hypothesis
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