Or... let them stay on Reddit. I like lemmy much better, and it's possibly due to the people that are not present and the lack of commercial interest.

what's a reddit?

Unfortunately, it'll be more than that, as that'll be saving the plaintext files transferred internal to the TLS connection. The information that would need to be saved will normally just be thrown out, as it'll be the TLS connection itself.

On second thought, though, I don't think that it'd be viable, since the way that something like this normally works is to just use (slow) public key encryption to transfer a symmetric session key and to then use (fast) symmetric encryption on the bulk data, and once you have a copy of the session key, you could forge whatever you want with it. This would only work if you were using asymmetric encryption to encrypt the data in the connection.

kagis

Just a moment...

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What is a session key? Session keys and TLS handshakes

The TLS (historically known as "SSL") protocol uses both asymmetric/public key and symmetric cryptography, and new keys for symmetric encryption have to be generated for each communication session. Such keys are called "session keys."

Yeah. Oh, well. It was a happy thought for a moment.

Nice of them to protect their (users') content from AI scrapping. So that they can charge AI companies for it instead.

When reddit has mutated a few more times. They start erasing stuff themselves. It will be lost to time and that fills me with hope.

No harm in that. To each their own. Everyone gets to decide at least.

Careful. Lemmy is too small to draw the attention of sophisticated, persistent abuse. As a company, Reddit has struggled with revenue and we've all seen those struggles quite publicly. Lemmy instances with those same challenges would probably just fold and close up.

Federated networks give you freedom but the potential for abuse is proportional to that freedom while at the same time, federation is far more expensive taken as a whole.

They can keep their shit for themselves, stopped caring a long time ago.

They aren’t doing that. They are protecting content from being scraped for free. Reddit is perfectly happy to charge for AI access to user-generated content.

don't worry, we easily repeat what we "learned" anyway

both of you are correct because you are speaking of different things

Slightly related, can you explain how (a few times for me) an archived page I tried to revisit got erased?

You use it too scratch your butt I think.

'freedom' as long as the mod agrees with you.

Just make your own invite-only server if you're so worried about it. Digital freedom should be for everyone, not just a few antisocial nerds.

So reddit will become even less valuable

I'm not worried about anything.

Not to mention all of Asia, South America, Africa...

I'm sure it would persist even after an event of malicious activity. It may just turn out like email with servers needing to be added to an allowlist at worst and more moderation. I think scalability might be the limiting factor at some point though and as a result we could end up with several disconnected islands of server clusters instead of globally meshed servers.

Weren't Reddit complaining a couple of years ago that too many AI bots crawls were stressing their servers.

Doesn't the internet archive relieve that stress?