Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
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Wow. Imagine being able to buy a video game online with a credit card, without having to drive to the department store to buy it! You don't even have to move from your seat! How draconian THAT would be!
Who has complained about that?
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I just called visa and got the send an email spiel. I didn't have time to do more time wasting, but it's clear from the person I talked to they are getting lots of calls.
The person in the screenshots getting the supervisor and escalating is a top tier time waster, great work!
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but Maeve said to call the senators about these, not mastercard. and you don't need to call them about all of these topics at once either.
But the Visa thing is an international issue that can be dealt with by contacting Visa. They're talking about contacting US senators, which is obviously not an international thing, it's an American thing. I know a lot of Americans have difficulty understanding that America doesn't equal the whole world, but come on.
Go do that too but don't try and link it to this because it's not even remotely related.
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It was sarcasm. I really dislike that the only thing young men will protest about is saving video games.
It's not the only thing people are protesting about is just the only thing people are protesting about in this thread.
You're really determined to be angry about this aren't you
You know cuz no one's been protesting about Palestine for the last whole bloody year have they, oh no that's definitely not been happening. <<< That bit sarcasm just in case you didn't get that.
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SKG is privileged western bullshit. It is a way to distract from real issues while feeling like you had an impact on something.
I just happen to have the foresight to know that 20 years from now it will sound stupid to brag that I helped change some obscure game development process for a tiny bit more convenience.
This is all absurd and a waste of time, but whatever makes people feel useful I guess.
Oh no! All the real issues would hang been solved if only I hadn't taken 5 whole minutes to sign a petition for SKG!
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Just some?
Others too
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The person who made the image had a cause they cared about and did something about it. If you care about those causes you should absolutely do the same.
Otherwise you just sound like you're lashing out at people who are doing something about something, while you are doing nothing about anything.
By the way, how many of those causes have you called your representative about?
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Please enlighten me.
gestures at the rest of the thread
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It’s impressive how much people get riled up about not getting porn.
I don’t blame them but I also don’t see this as activism, I doubt anyone really spending the time on this cares about possible future censorship that others who are not them may face, they just want to buy their porn.First they came for the porn...
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Fine you win.
Would you please go call you senator or congressperson, local politician or mayor, perhaps a school board member or library director, and state your opposition to visa and MasterCard refusing service for sexual abuse related products.
There, I'm contributing just as much as you are! Twinsies!
Lol. Lmao even. Poor reading comprehension, strawmanning, and false equivalency all in one short comment, congratulations. You'd do well troll comment golf! You even snuck some childish huffing in there without adding too many extra characters!
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Fictional isn't the same as not real.
Fiction is definitionally not true or is made up.
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But the Visa thing is an international issue that can be dealt with by contacting Visa. They're talking about contacting US senators, which is obviously not an international thing, it's an American thing. I know a lot of Americans have difficulty understanding that America doesn't equal the whole world, but come on.
Go do that too but don't try and link it to this because it's not even remotely related.
I don't see how that makes the same method unsuitable. and no, I'm not an American, and I never have been there.
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But the Visa thing is an international issue that can be dealt with by contacting Visa. They're talking about contacting US senators, which is obviously not an international thing, it's an American thing. I know a lot of Americans have difficulty understanding that America doesn't equal the whole world, but come on.
Go do that too but don't try and link it to this because it's not even remotely related.
You can replace congressional representatives with MPs or whatever is appropriate.
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The person who made the image had a cause they cared about and did something about it. If you care about those causes you should absolutely do the same.
Otherwise you just sound like you're lashing out at people who are doing something about something, while you are doing nothing about anything.
By the way, how many of those causes have you called your representative about?
I'm active in my community and I'm sure my congressional representatives wish I'd move, as the ones I had prior.
It's odd how so many are quick to add their personal interpretations.
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Maybe they reversed it in that case after outrage... I'm basing it on the reporting:
https://www.polygon.com/news/615910/itchio-steam-sex-adult-games-delisting-pulled-vice-controversy
In this case, the furor is driven by the knowledge that Collective Shout isn’t merely against games like No Mercy. It’s also waged a campaign against titles like Detroit: Become Human, Quantic Dream’s adventure game that is decidedly not an “adult” game, and titles like hentai puzzle/dating sim Huniepop. The worry is that, by bucking to pressure from groups like Collective Shout, platforms like Steam pave the way for more extreme censorship measures.
So maybe it was a separate campaign regarding Detroit?
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It's odd how so many are quick to add their personal interpretations.
Right, it's not like that's what you immediately did in your first comment.
You also didn't answer the question as to how many of those causes you called your representatives about.
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It's odd how so many are quick to add their personal interpretations.
Right, it's not like that's what you immediately did in your first comment.
You also didn't answer the question as to how many of those causes you called your representatives about.
I asked that people be as passionate for things I've mentioned. Any one will do.
Every. Single. Issue.
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Lol I'm on the visa line with Visa now, they have a prepared statement about this.
They are trying to say they only ever block purchases unless it's illegal.
They explicitly said they DO NOT moderate purchases unless it is illegal multiple times. I kept challenging her and saying it's not illegal, yet they moderate, but she told me she can only read the prepared statement and repeated it multiple times. She then told me I would have to email them to "share my perspective" and then hung up on me.
Good thing what they say doesn't matter, since goal is to tie up the lines.
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Not sure I'd call preventing abuse as backwards mentality.
You can't possibly think that's actually what's happening here.
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Fiction is definitionally not true or is made up.
Cool, I didnt expect you to understand my point.
