We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:03 zuletzt editiert von
Has US nationalized anything this millenia? I really don't see that ever happening
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:05 zuletzt editiert von
Quite ironic from people constantly accusing their political adversaries to be communists...
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Post Soviet Russia. There’s a fun history lesson in there. They gave stock in all the companies to all the workers. Then a couple rich people got together and tricked all the people to accumulate all the stocks. Those people became the oligarchs. And we know what happened to the workers of Russia. They all died in a trench in Ukraine very happy story.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:19 zuletzt editiert vonI’m not sure our idea of happiness aligns.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:19 zuletzt editiert von
Yeah. Let’s give Trump that power.
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No this the one time I’m with the commies. Nationalize that shit. Like you said it’s all taxpayer money anyway. A little bit of Wall Street speculation, but who gives a fuck about those people
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:24 zuletzt editiert vonSo you wanna nationalize the whole telecom industry then?
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No this the one time I’m with the commies. Nationalize that shit. Like you said it’s all taxpayer money anyway. A little bit of Wall Street speculation, but who gives a fuck about those people
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:27 zuletzt editiert vonall taxpayer money anyway
Yes but with very little to show for it. If the government just treated all undelivered orders as debt, it would end up deep in the red.
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The humanity does. Well, maybe not “need” it but deserve it. Finding out about the world around us is what we exist for.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:32 zuletzt editiert vonThen, how do we benefit from SpaceX? I'm not bashing the NASA, but I see no point in all the waste SpaceX is producing, down on earth and its orbit. These satelites are likely to crash one day in a chain reaction.
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Even though it’s not a space trash problem, it is a regular upper atmosphere polluter of aluminum oxide ash. We don’t yet know the long term consequences.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:34 zuletzt editiert vonIt’s not enough, but I would bet it might have a cooling effect as it reflects more light in the upper atmosphere.
But we should really still make sure, and more importantly not trust Elon with any data flowing over those satellites.
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So you wanna nationalize the whole telecom industry then?
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:37 zuletzt editiert vonWell, now that you bring it up...
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I think if you consider the cost to manufacture then bury a fibre optic cable for everyone who lives 10km from a town centre, I think it's still a net positive. It's not great for sure, but amortised over a huge population it's probably the best option we have at this time.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:37 zuletzt editiert von anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6. Juli 2025, 13:38Only short term, long term the repeated rocket launches can’t win out over a ditch digger.
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Well, now that you bring it up...
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:39 zuletzt editiert von fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 6. Juli 2025, 13:41I fully agree. Any industry that can’t survive on its own and needs public funds, shouldn’t exist. If it’s an essential service it should be nationalized.
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You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:42 zuletzt editiert von cocodapuf@lemmy.world 6. Juli 2025, 14:55This is the thing, NASA is underfunded as it is, if we nationalized SpaceX, we wouldn't actually continue to fund it appropriately and it would simply die. Actually, with trump at the helm, nationalizing it would mean Trump immediately liquidating it. SpaceX is definitely the most successful rocket company in the US. It would be an awful shame for the space industry and for humanity's future in space.
I hate musk as much as the next guy, but I think the success of spaceX is undeniable. Their success with reusable rockets is not just impressive, it's ground breaking and important. Developing a fully reusable rocket is probably the most important challenge humans are working on in this era, and I only know of three companies attempting to do it. I don't want to kill the company that's furthest along.
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Quite ironic from people constantly accusing their political adversaries to be communists...
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:44 zuletzt editiert von echolalia@lemmy.ml 6. Juli 2025, 13:48 -
You mean the NASA who landed people on the moon?
So let's assume you aren't a moon landing denier and use that as a baseline, NASA is clearly capable of things given the right circumstances and budget.
SpaceX benefited from his reputation and money, because they sure as shit didn't benefit from his technical acumen.
Business wise he is successful because he's rich and influential and that works to mitigate how shitty he is at actually running an organisation, that doesn't mean he has skills as a business person that means he has money and influence, in his case originally from the mine, then from buying and bullying his was in to businesses that were technologically sound and boosting them with his money.
You could make an argument he's a relatively good investor, but he's an actively bad CEO.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:46 zuletzt editiert vonNASA is clearly capable of things given the right circumstances and budget.
Absolutely agree with this but there is no denying the innovation levels at spacex are higher (I'm not saying this is down to musk specifically. The man is a horror story of a human).
We were all in total awe when seeing booster stages land themselves successfully for the first time. It was such a giant leap forward and to the best of my knowledge no government funded space agency was even considering it before spacex.
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This is the thing, NASA is underfunded as it is, if we nationalized SpaceX, we wouldn't actually continue to fund it appropriately and it would simply die. Actually, with trump at the helm, nationalizing it would mean Trump immediately liquidating it. SpaceX is definitely the most successful rocket company in the US. It would be an awful shame for the space industry and for humanity's future in space.
I hate musk as much as the next guy, but I think the success of spaceX is undeniable. Their success with reusable rockets is not just impressive, it's ground breaking and important. Developing a fully reusable rocket is probably the most important challenge humans are working on in this era, and I only know of three companies attempting to do it. I don't want to kill the company that's furthest along.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:49 zuletzt editiert vonOf course he was always a jerk, but I still think of a reality where Elon never went (officially) Nazi and just stuck with his otherwise important companies. Tesla being an important early mover in EVs, especially in such an oil-dependent country, and all the cool stuff SpaceX has been up to.
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all taxpayer money anyway
Yes but with very little to show for it. If the government just treated all undelivered orders as debt, it would end up deep in the red.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 11:58 zuletzt editiert vonWhat do you mean little to show for it?
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This is the thing, NASA is underfunded as it is, if we nationalized SpaceX, we wouldn't actually continue to fund it appropriately and it would simply die. Actually, with trump at the helm, nationalizing it would mean Trump immediately liquidating it. SpaceX is definitely the most successful rocket company in the US. It would be an awful shame for the space industry and for humanity's future in space.
I hate musk as much as the next guy, but I think the success of spaceX is undeniable. Their success with reusable rockets is not just impressive, it's ground breaking and important. Developing a fully reusable rocket is probably the most important challenge humans are working on in this era, and I only know of three companies attempting to do it. I don't want to kill the company that's furthest along.
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 12:02 zuletzt editiert vonYou guys are so stuck in the cult of personality. WE PAID FOR EVERYTHING SPACEX DID. IT BELONGS TO US.
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So you wanna nationalize the whole telecom industry then?
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 12:03 zuletzt editiert vonYes, absolutely. And power too
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 12:04 zuletzt editiert von
Lets reach a compromise. Impeach Trump (successfully) and then take away SpaceX from Elon. That way things would be fair.
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Yes, absolutely. And power too
schrieb am 7. Juni 2025, 12:05 zuletzt editiert vonAnd pharma. And O&G
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