7 years later, Valve's Proton has been an incredible game-changer for Linux
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Also free. Because macOS is free.
It was sort of a trick question. To upgrade to Sequoia you need to buy a new Mac because the 2016 MacBook Pro doesn’t support it. The Mac is a license dongle to use MacOS until you’re required to buy a new dongle.
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It was sort of a trick question. To upgrade to Sequoia you need to buy a new Mac because the 2016 MacBook Pro doesn’t support it. The Mac is a license dongle to use MacOS until you’re required to buy a new dongle.
All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.
You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved
Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.
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How do they make money with proton and foss?
They sell games to people with SteamDecks, I guess. My comment was probably a bit blunt TBF. I think Valve is transformative in the gaming space. They’re not doing it for free though, and I think it helps to remember that.
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They sell games to people with SteamDecks, I guess. My comment was probably a bit blunt TBF. I think Valve is transformative in the gaming space. They’re not doing it for free though, and I think it helps to remember that.
Proton actually is free, I use it without a Steam Deck. I mean yeah they build a handheld console and they are allowed to sell it I guess? They don't sell SteamOS and they don't sell Proton, I could use both without paying them a dime right now. Legally. They also upstream to Wine ... Actually for free?
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Bazzite has native drivers included. I believe Fedora requires you to install them.
It does seem to go a step further, Fedora seems to not only require you to install them, but also not provide them in the official repositories, requiring you to use unofficial repositories. Most software in a distro's repositories doesn't come preinstalled, but it's generally as simple as running the package manager.
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I'm getting back into PC gaming after being consult exclusive for a while. I'm assuming anything with kernel anti-cheat is still not trying to work which is a problem because it means I either have to buy a windows licence or mess around with a cracked one which has its own security concerns.
I think my plan is to dual boot and use Windows as little as often.
There's this handy list of online games with anti-cheat that are compatible with Linux. The majority isn't supported, but some major titles are, surprisingly.
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So, Valve has indeed done a lot to make Linux more attractive for gamers. It isn't perfect yet, but we are getting there. And yes, kernel-based anti-cheat is one of the reasons why it isn't perfect yet.
Are they working on a fix for the kernel anti cheat? Is it possible?
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Are they working on a fix for the kernel anti cheat? Is it possible?
Not really. But from a security perspective, giving software for a video game, done by InfinityWard, EA, Activision, Treyarch and similar, access to the lowest level of your operating systen is kinda insane.
I wouldn't want any personal data on such a device, let alone do online baking on that thing. It's weird how normalized it has become give entertainement-software this kind of power over your devices.
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As they need to be installed on Apple hardware, there's an implicit cost associated with it.
If you want to be super pedantic for no reason, you're correct, it is technically free.
So is windows for most users. I technically have so many windows licences that I don't use because the system has long ago been wiped...
There used to be a big movement to get windows refunded if you didn't use it. I think you could get 20 euros if you managed to jump through all the hoops. And I'm not even sure it's still possible. -
So, my middle aged ass plays the microtransaction-laden bullshit known as Roblox because my 3rd grader and all his friends love it.
It doesn't even have a Linux version but thanks to the project "sober" it plays absolutely fantastically on Linux. I think they claim 2x the performance of the windows version. I just know I have a powerful but old system (8c/8t 9700k cpu and gtx1080 gpu) and I can lock it at 144fps at 1440p and it uses like 20% of my system resources. Not that it's a visually demanding game, lol.
Going all-in on my switch to Linux (my win10 partition for dual booting lasted less than two weeks) has had zero negative impact on my ability to play the games I want. In fact, it has led to me using my PC a lot more and my phone a lot less. Feels good.
I've suffered one loss, I can't play Mechabellum any more. But other than that my experience has been much the same, smooth across all fronts.
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Not really. But from a security perspective, giving software for a video game, done by InfinityWard, EA, Activision, Treyarch and similar, access to the lowest level of your operating systen is kinda insane.
I wouldn't want any personal data on such a device, let alone do online baking on that thing. It's weird how normalized it has become give entertainement-software this kind of power over your devices.
From what I read, Microsoft is planning to kick anti-cheat out of the Windows kernel too, so maybe that will help on the Linux side as well.
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So, Valve has indeed done a lot to make Linux more attractive for gamers. It isn't perfect yet, but we are getting there. And yes, kernel-based anti-cheat is one of the reasons why it isn't perfect yet.
I'd argue kernel-based anticheats are one of the areas gaming on Linux excels. Video game developers should not have that level of permissions over consumers' machines, certainly with how little your average gamer understands the potential consequences of these rootkits. So the fact that all of the ones I know of can't be installed under Linux is more than acceptable, it's ideal.
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All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.
You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved
Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.
Geez man we have 5 MacBooks, 5 iPhones, 3 Apple TVs, a few iPads and watches. Even a couple iPods still. Not a hater. But Apple makes their money off selling hardware, not the OS. That doesn’t make the OS “free”, because keeping old hardware updated conflicts with their business model. If you buy a Mac you get 6 years out of it and then it becomes unsupported. What everyone else is telling you is that MacOS isn’t free, it’s prepaid, as part of the hardware purchase. Hope that helps.
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