We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink
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The main problem is that starlink is not a viable ISP like Comcast. Relying on low earth orbit is extremely wasteful as you need to constantly launch more and more satellites. Starlink gives their satellites a 5 year lifespan where fiber can go on for 40 years or more. There are 7,500 starlink satellites, so we're talking a constant replacement of satellites all falling into earth's atmosphere, not being recycled.
Starlink is literal space trash waiting to happen.
You are right in how wasteful it is, especially since it turned out a lot of those satellites don't even make it to 4 years.
However there is zero risk of space trash with Starlink. They orbit so low, it's basically within the atmosphere still. They need to constantly boost themselves, otherwise they fall down and burn up. So these satellites are coming down within years all on their own, even without any controlled disposal.
It's insanely wasteful, but it keeps SpaceX in business launching every week, which is kind of the point. But at least there isn't a Kessler syndrome waiting to happen.
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If only we could adjust the plot of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetes to where it's mostly just cleaning up dead starlink satellites.
In any case, highly recommended as a fantastic anime. And for those that haven't seen it:
That's a dubbed trailer, but those of you looking for a Japanese language trailer know where to find it or probably have already watched it lol
I'm checking this out!
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Nationalization is so communist thing to do.
Also every African despotic regime that has has ever existed.
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Nationalization is so communist thing to do.
Doesnt make it a bad idea tho
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Never gonna happen under republicans... or dems as they are sell outs too.
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Nationalization is so communist thing to do.
don't threaten me with a good time!
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Reverse accelerating space ship. I like the idea!
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why stop there?
do it to meta, twitter, amazon, etc
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Giving companies to the state doesn't always work well. However giving companies to the workers does.
We've seen China give companies to the state, but have there been any large examples of giving companies to the workers?
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We've seen China give companies to the state, but have there been any large examples of giving companies to the workers?
I can't think of any examples. Taking over the company requires capital, which is the one thing that capitalists constantly extract from workers so they don't have any.
The workers of xs4all tried when their new corporate owners, KPN, decided to dissolve them. But a combination of lack of funding and unfriendly courts prevented that. They did end up starting a new company though...
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have a government run space agency
a private company shows up
does everything better at a fraction of the cost and actually innovates
commies on lemmy: We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink
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You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.
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You are right in how wasteful it is, especially since it turned out a lot of those satellites don't even make it to 4 years.
However there is zero risk of space trash with Starlink. They orbit so low, it's basically within the atmosphere still. They need to constantly boost themselves, otherwise they fall down and burn up. So these satellites are coming down within years all on their own, even without any controlled disposal.
It's insanely wasteful, but it keeps SpaceX in business launching every week, which is kind of the point. But at least there isn't a Kessler syndrome waiting to happen.
Even though it’s not a space trash problem, it is a regular upper atmosphere polluter of aluminum oxide ash. We don’t yet know the long term consequences.
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Also every African despotic regime that has has ever existed.
Stopping exploitation by Shell, BP & Friends isn't exactly what made those regimes despotic
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have a government run space agency
a private company shows up
does everything better at a fraction of the cost and actually innovates
commies on lemmy: We Should Immediately Nationalize SpaceX and Starlink
A private company shows up that gets federal funding while the space agency gets funding consistently cut while having to support multiple, multi-year, billion dollar projects.
A private company whose survival is 100% reliant on government money.
Capitalists on Lemmy: private company is better just because it's private
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i dont feel the cost and waste of all the rocket launches and debris justifies remote areas having satellite Internet
I think if you consider the cost to manufacture then bury a fibre optic cable for everyone who lives 10km from a town centre, I think it's still a net positive. It's not great for sure, but amortised over a huge population it's probably the best option we have at this time.
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You could always just fund the space agency you already have, instead of funneling money to a foreign billionaire.
No this the one time I’m with the commies. Nationalize that shit. Like you said it’s all taxpayer money anyway. A little bit of Wall Street speculation, but who gives a fuck about those people
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Never gonna happen under republicans... or dems as they are sell outs too.
We just need to allow them to keep the money. They like money. Give them 10% as a finders fee and the Yes vote will be unanimous
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why stop there?
do it to meta, twitter, amazon, etc
Based? Then they can become regulated.
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Giving companies to the state doesn't always work well. However giving companies to the workers does.
Ya like in Russia! When all the poor got tricked out of their shares and a billionaire class was made which continued to strangle the poor for 30 years
