Some of your AI prompts could cause 50 times more CO2 emissions than others
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Does this also apply to AI models I run locally on my computer?
No they are magically free.
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Lemmy wants me to believe that AI is the danger for climate change. This is like drinking through paper straw while the pollution comes from mega-factories who dump their waste in the river.
So AI is the problem… huh… and not the thousands of missiles dropped in Ukraine, Gaza, Iran and the Occupied Terrorist Zionazi Land.
Cool I guess, AI Bad!
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When you do 0 AI prompts, they all cause the same amount of emissions, which is 0.
Also true: When you do 0 AI prompts, they all cause the same amount of emissions, which is 999999999 gigajoules.
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Lemmy wants me to believe that AI is the danger for climate change. This is like drinking through paper straw while the pollution comes from mega-factories who dump their waste in the river.
So AI is the problem… huh… and not the thousands of missiles dropped in Ukraine, Gaza, Iran and the Occupied Terrorist Zionazi Land.
Cool I guess, AI Bad!
Meh, whataboutism.
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Lemmy wants me to believe that AI is the danger for climate change. This is like drinking through paper straw while the pollution comes from mega-factories who dump their waste in the river.
So AI is the problem… huh… and not the thousands of missiles dropped in Ukraine, Gaza, Iran and the Occupied Terrorist Zionazi Land.
Cool I guess, AI Bad!
Shockingly, several things can be bad at the same time. What do you think will happen to places that already tend to struggle with heat (like quite a few places in the middle east), if they get even warmer? What will happen to the people that live there? Will they be able to move to colder places? Or will they simply run into borders? Borders, which are protected by more and more money and weapons (and drones controlled by AI, funny, huh?)?
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Shockingly, several things can be bad at the same time. What do you think will happen to places that already tend to struggle with heat (like quite a few places in the middle east), if they get even warmer? What will happen to the people that live there? Will they be able to move to colder places? Or will they simply run into borders? Borders, which are protected by more and more money and weapons (and drones controlled by AI, funny, huh?)?
Humans love to live in places that aren’t suitable for their life.
People in some parts of Europe, Russia, North America live in places where without heating, they would simply cease to exist. Same for places in the middle east, people in Qatar and UAE live in places where without AC, they would cease to exist.
Both ways of living is harmful for environment. Maybe we should reevaluate where we live.
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Generally, heating and cooling are the main energy consumption for domestic purposes. next up is the car, and then electrical consumption. (from what i remember).
I suppose it depends on where you live. Our house consumes something over 20 000kWh per year as our heating is also electric (and rest of the consumption is pretty neglible compared to heating) and we also have a fireplace which consumes around 15m³ of firewood, depending on how cold winter happens to be. Electric grid here has a ton of renewables and nuclear, so co2 footprint should be on the smaller side compared to global average.
Also, as google and microsoft (among others) shoehorns AI "answers" to everything that adds up, but private use seems to be quite insignificant anyways.
I'm no fan of AI "answers", because if i search for something, i'd like to have access to the source or at least know if i depend on a random social media post as my answer. I'm also pretty sure that - if they are smart, and they (mostly) are - caching of questions and answers will cut down on the amount of total questions asked.
and then there are things like grok, which fuck with air quality because elon couldn't wait until the power grid was usable at his datacenter (or open a datacenter where you have access to the required amount of power) and uses dozens of gas turbines for power (without permits, because when the penalty is a fine, it's just the cost of doing business)
xAI Data Center Emits Plumes of Pollution, New Video Shows
A massive data center at xAI’s controversial site in Memphis, Tennessee is emitting huge plumes of pollution, according to an environmental watchdog group.
DeSmog (www.desmog.com)
Because if there is something that can be done in a responsible way, you can count on elon to do it in the most braindead way possible.
e: direct link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSWgDOzfKRI
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Humans love to live in places that aren’t suitable for their life.
People in some parts of Europe, Russia, North America live in places where without heating, they would simply cease to exist. Same for places in the middle east, people in Qatar and UAE live in places where without AC, they would cease to exist.
Both ways of living is harmful for environment. Maybe we should reevaluate where we live.
They should live in temperate climate instead, so irresponsible, they need to let go of the past and more forward, to greener places.
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Shockingly, several things can be bad at the same time. What do you think will happen to places that already tend to struggle with heat (like quite a few places in the middle east), if they get even warmer? What will happen to the people that live there? Will they be able to move to colder places? Or will they simply run into borders? Borders, which are protected by more and more money and weapons (and drones controlled by AI, funny, huh?)?
You can run a model locally on your phone and it will answer most prompts without breaking a sweet, it's actually way less energy than googling and loading the content from a website that's hosted 24/7 just waiting for you to access the content.
Training a model is expensive, using it isn't.
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Beautiful. I propose to start questioning very silly reasoning prompts. This way we get more CO2 and better food production/growth.
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Wow tokens exist.
See i fit that in 3 words.
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You can run a model locally on your phone and it will answer most prompts without breaking a sweet, it's actually way less energy than googling and loading the content from a website that's hosted 24/7 just waiting for you to access the content.
Training a model is expensive, using it isn't.
I would like to learn about this a bit more, I keep hearing it in conversations here and there. Do you have links around studies/data on this?
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You can run a model locally on your phone and it will answer most prompts without breaking a sweet, it's actually way less energy than googling and loading the content from a website that's hosted 24/7 just waiting for you to access the content.
Training a model is expensive, using it isn't.
Can you link me to what model you are talking about? I experimented with running some models on my server, but had a rather tough time without a GPU.
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Wow tokens exist.
See i fit that in 3 words.
Think of the saved CO~2~ compared to writing an entire article!
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You can run a model locally on your phone and it will answer most prompts without breaking a sweet, it's actually way less energy than googling and loading the content from a website that's hosted 24/7 just waiting for you to access the content.
Training a model is expensive, using it isn't.
Nice claim you have there. Do you have anything to back that up?
If it's so easy, it shouldn't be hard for you to link a model like that.
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Humans love to live in places that aren’t suitable for their life.
People in some parts of Europe, Russia, North America live in places where without heating, they would simply cease to exist. Same for places in the middle east, people in Qatar and UAE live in places where without AC, they would cease to exist.
Both ways of living is harmful for environment. Maybe we should reevaluate where we live.
Did you, by any chance, ever wonder, why people deal with hunger instead of just eating cake?
